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Sammy225 FCL Blue Jays

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Really s*****. I was always hoping he could have one more decent year so he did not go out on a down year. Class act guy and should / WILL be the next number retired by the organization.
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This is probably for the best though. No one really wants to see the broken down Halladay anymore.

 

It's too bad it had to end for him this way. Still a great career, and nice to see his appreciated his time with Toronto enough to retire here

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This is probably for the best though. No one really wants to see the broken down Halladay anymore.

 

I don't know. He couldn't have been shamed any more. Was already at the bottom. No harm in trying to have a decent year on a contender before riding off into sunset.

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I wouldn't be surprised if he keeps working out and tries to come back in two years.

 

I am guessing that his arm issues from last year are a little more serious then originally thought and had a set back this offseason. I hope he does not try to come back as I would hate for him to be one of those guys that bounces around trying to get another chance.

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Maybe he didn't rehab well though. Knew he wouldn't be effective

 

Part of it had to be the fact he didn't want to be mediocre. He used to get pissed going even 8. I believe he also had young kids getting older, so that could factor in

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First game I remember going too was his second career start, when he took a no-hitter into the ninth against the Tigers? I believe.

 

He became my first baseball "idol" today for no reason other than being there for a good performance. I was lucky to have picked a consummate professional and a future star.

 

This disappoints me, I hope he gets into the Hall one day even though it's a sham. He was the best pitcher of the 2000's (decade) in my opinion.

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First game I remember going too was his second career start, when he took a no-hitter into the ninth against the Tigers? I believe.

 

He became my first baseball "idol" today for no reason other than being there for a good performance. I was lucky to have picked a consummate professional and a future star.

 

This disappoints me, I hope he gets into the Hall one day even though it's a sham. He was the best pitcher of the 2000's (decade) in my opinion.

 

Gave up a homer to Bobby Higginson.

 

I remember his wind-up was over the top too.

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SHI DAVIDI

DECEMBER 9, 2013, 11:00 AM

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – Roy Halladay is leaving major-league baseball the way he entered it – as a member of the Toronto Blue Jays.

 

The two-time Cy Young Award winner re-signed Monday with the team that drafted and developed him into one of the generation’s best pitchers, and then he immediately announced his retirement.

 

Admired and respected across the game for his durability, work ethic and fierce determination, Halladay fought through shoulder problems last season and faced just three batters in his last outing, a 4-0 Philadelphia Phillies loss to the Miami Marlins that represented the shortest start of his career.

 

After that game, when he couldn’t top 83 m.p.h., Halladay phoned the surgeon that removed bone spurs and repaired the frayed labrum in his right shoulder back in May and was prescribed rest, nothing more.

 

Still, at 36 and with 2,749.1 big-league innings on the odometer, the chances for a recovery didn’t look good, especially when Halladay also revealed that he had been fighting a genetic diet-related illness.

 

Monday’s retirement was an acknowledgment that his body had no more to give the game.

 

That he chose to hang up his No. 32 as a member of the Blue Jays is an appropriate end for one of the organization’s best home-grown players.

 

His departure after the 2009 season remains a painful moment for the franchise, a split driven by Halladay because of then GM J.P. Ricciardi’s inability to build a winner around him.

 

Halladay twice signed below-market extensions with the Blue Jays leading into that fateful 2009 season, when he was publicly shopped by Ricciardi prior to the trade deadline and was eventually dealt by Alex Anthopoulos during the off-season.

 

The Blue Jays got Kyle Drabek, Travis d’Arnaud (who helped land R.A. Dickey) and Michael Taylor (who became Brett Wallace, who became Anthony Gose) in return, while Halladay earned a second Cy Young Award and two trips to the playoffs, neither of which produced the championship he so dearly coveted.

 

His first post-season appearance did lead to one of the signature moments of his career – a no-hitter against the Cincinnati Reds in the 2010 NLDS, a feat all the more impressive given that he’d already thrown a perfect game against the Marlins on May 29 of that year.

 

A first-round pick, 17th overall, in the 1995 draft, Halladay flashed his brilliance in his second career big-league outing, a 2-1 win over the Detroit Tigers on Sept. 27, 1998, when he lost a no-hitter with two out in the ninth inning on a Bobby Higginson home run.

 

His ascension to stardom was derailed by struggles so severe in 2000 and early 2001 that the Blue Jays sent him all the way down to single-A, where pitching guru Mel Queen rebuilt his delivery and mental approach to the game.

 

Halladay returned midway through the 2001 season and never looked back, throwing at least 220 innings in eight of the next 10 seasons (forearm problems cut his season short in 2004 while a fractured leg ruined a brilliant 2005).

 

In his Cy Young season of 2003, he made 36 starts and threw 266 innings, winning his 22nd game on the final day of the season, a 5-4 complete-game over the Cleveland Indians. That season he also threw a 10-inning, three-hit shutout of the Tigers, won 1-0 on Bobby Kielty’s walk-off single.

 

On April 13, 2007 Halladay again threw 10 innings against the Tigers, winning this one 2-1 on an Alex Rios sacrifice fly. Fernando Rodney took the loss both times.

 

Still, as good as Halladay was during his time in Toronto, the shame for the Blue Jays is that they never made more of his peak years, unable to reach the post-season with him as their ace.

 

Eventually he’ll join Carlos Delgado on the club’s Level of Excellence as the only players to be so honoured not to make the playoffs in Toronto, and even sadder is that no one since has put himself on track for similar recognition.

 

Given how great Halladay was it’s too easy, too tempting, to wonder what might have been. At least his career ends back with the Blue Jays, the place where he belonged all along.

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SHI DAVIDI

DECEMBER 9, 2013, 11:00 AM

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. – Roy Halladay is leaving major-league baseball the way he entered it – as a member of the Toronto Blue Jays.

 

The two-time Cy Young Award winner re-signed Monday with the team that drafted and developed him into one of the generation’s best pitchers, and then he immediately announced his retirement.

 

Admired and respected across the game for his durability, work ethic and fierce determination, Halladay fought through shoulder problems last season and faced just three batters in his last outing, a 4-0 Philadelphia Phillies loss to the Miami Marlins that represented the shortest start of his career.

 

After that game, when he couldn’t top 83 m.p.h., Halladay phoned the surgeon that removed bone spurs and repaired the frayed labrum in his right shoulder back in May and was prescribed rest, nothing more.

 

Still, at 36 and with 2,749.1 big-league innings on the odometer, the chances for a recovery didn’t look good, especially when Halladay also revealed that he had been fighting a genetic diet-related illness.

 

Monday’s retirement was an acknowledgment that his body had no more to give the game.

 

That he chose to hang up his No. 32 as a member of the Blue Jays is an appropriate end for one of the organization’s best home-grown players.

 

His departure after the 2009 season remains a painful moment for the franchise, a split driven by Halladay because of then GM J.P. Ricciardi’s inability to build a winner around him.

 

Halladay twice signed below-market extensions with the Blue Jays leading into that fateful 2009 season, when he was publicly shopped by Ricciardi prior to the trade deadline and was eventually dealt by Alex Anthopoulos during the off-season.

 

The Blue Jays got Kyle Drabek, Travis d’Arnaud (who helped land R.A. Dickey) and Michael Taylor (who became Brett Wallace, who became Anthony Gose) in return, while Halladay earned a second Cy Young Award and two trips to the playoffs, neither of which produced the championship he so dearly coveted.

 

His first post-season appearance did lead to one of the signature moments of his career – a no-hitter against the Cincinnati Reds in the 2010 NLDS, a feat all the more impressive given that he’d already thrown a perfect game against the Marlins on May 29 of that year.

 

A first-round pick, 17th overall, in the 1995 draft, Halladay flashed his brilliance in his second career big-league outing, a 2-1 win over the Detroit Tigers on Sept. 27, 1998, when he lost a no-hitter with two out in the ninth inning on a Bobby Higginson home run.

 

His ascension to stardom was derailed by struggles so severe in 2000 and early 2001 that the Blue Jays sent him all the way down to single-A, where pitching guru Mel Queen rebuilt his delivery and mental approach to the game.

 

Halladay returned midway through the 2001 season and never looked back, throwing at least 220 innings in eight of the next 10 seasons (forearm problems cut his season short in 2004 while a fractured leg ruined a brilliant 2005).

 

In his Cy Young season of 2003, he made 36 starts and threw 266 innings, winning his 22nd game on the final day of the season, a 5-4 complete-game over the Cleveland Indians. That season he also threw a 10-inning, three-hit shutout of the Tigers, won 1-0 on Bobby Kielty’s walk-off single.

 

On April 13, 2007 Halladay again threw 10 innings against the Tigers, winning this one 2-1 on an Alex Rios sacrifice fly. Fernando Rodney took the loss both times.

 

Still, as good as Halladay was during his time in Toronto, the shame for the Blue Jays is that they never made more of his peak years, unable to reach the post-season with him as their ace.

 

Eventually he’ll join Carlos Delgado on the club’s Level of Excellence as the only players to be so honoured not to make the playoffs in Toronto, and even sadder is that no one since has put himself on track for similar recognition.

 

Given how great Halladay was it’s too easy, too tempting, to wonder what might have been. At least his career ends back with the Blue Jays, the place where he belonged all along.

 

Remember that game so clearly. Right there you knew that he was going to be special.

TRM Buffalo Bisons

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Remember that game so clearly. Right there you knew that he was going to be special.

 

As I mentioned I was at that game, and it was the first baseball game I remember being at. I was destined to love baseball it seems, cause I was gifted with the perfect introduction to the game.

connorp New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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Yeah clear from that article RH knew he wasn't capable of pitching. Has to suck but at least he's not retiring from the NFL (brain defects).. And he has bank.. So he will be ok
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http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2009&month=0&season1=2000&ind=0

 

Does being possibly the best pitcher of a decade (outside of Randy) justify a place in the Hall?

 

Well I think the fans and media need to readjust expectations for what justifies a spot in the hall.

 

I think we still use the arbitrary figures such as 500 homers, 3K strikeouts, 300 wins. But those kind of numbers, especially for pitchers, are just not attainable anymore.

 

Halladay feels like a hall of famer, and I believe he should get in. But knowing how stubborn voters are, I don't think he can get in.

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http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2009&month=0&season1=2000&ind=0

 

Does being possibly the best pitcher of a decade (outside of Randy) justify a place in the Hall?

 

Even though he kinda meets the criteria, I don't think so. The whole body of work for me just doesn't get it done, there's other exclusions right now who are more deserving.

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