Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Bluejays.com has a report that the Jays are going after Chicago White Sox' second baseman Gordon Beckham. Beckham was a first round pick in 2008, he's been a bit of a disappointment for the White Sox, but there is a fair bit of potential there. Defensively, UZR has him about average, career 0.6 UZR/150, I'd like better than average defense, but then beggars can't be choosers. They go on to add that: It's also possible that the Blue Jays would look to expand any deal involving Beckham to also include a starting pitcher. Chicago's Hector Santiago and John Danks are known to be available, and the Blue Jays have a clear need to upgrade their current starting unit. They say that the White Sox are interested in Aaron Sanchez and Marcus Stroman, but then who wouldn't be. I'd like to keep them personally. Gotta give something to get something, but I think Stroman could be part of the team at some point next season. Anyway, what do you think? You want Gordon Beckham? What would you be willing to give up for him? http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2013/10/30/5047532/rumor-time-blue-jays-want-gordon-beckham
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2013/10/30/5047532/rumor-time-blue-jays-want-gordon-beckham I wouldn't even give them Pillar for Beckham as he is a BUST
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) The truth is, AA has probably called 15-20 GM's about second basemen. Doesn't mean the calls that get leaked are likely to happen. Edited October 30, 2013 by G-Snarls
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Good point. The White Sox leak everything which is why we are hearing about these rumors. I am fully expecting AA to trade Sanchez+ for Danks. It just did his MO so well haha TBH though if I'm moving Sanchez/Stroman (let them pick) I'm asking for Sale back, not their mid-rotation guys.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 If we trade sanchez or stroman and don't get an all star ######1 pitcher AA will be fired a week later.
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 "It's also possible that the Blue Jays would look to expand any deal" Where have we heard this before
eastcoastjaysfan Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 If we trade sanchez or stroman and don't get an all star ######1 pitcher AA will be fired a week later. Um... Beeston would probably greenlight the deal. AA's job is safe as long as Beeston is around.
Ehh Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 If AA deals stroman or sanchez im f***ing outta here
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Sale + Beckham + Danks' contract for ??? What do you guys think it'd take? I like who AA's been interested in so far but I hope he doesn't do anything stupid.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Author Posted October 30, 2013 Blockbuster s*** deal is coming. Aaron Sanchez/Stroman + Gose + Nolin + Pillar for Beckham, Danks, Flowers/Josh Phegley
jays_fever Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Sale + Beckham + Danks' contract for ??? What do you guys think it'd take? I like who AA's been interested in so far but I hope he doesn't do anything stupid. Take out Sale and Add in Stroman + something else? Whatever you think is a fair deal, add a lot more value going the other way, and then repeat the process until it doesnt make any sense. Then you have yourself a deal AA would do
Frenchsoup Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I said last offseason have faith in AA, I will not say the same this offseason.
Ziggyy108 Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 If Beckham is our starting 2B next year ..... I f***ing quit
Howard Roark Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 We don't have enough 4's and 5's in our rotation already, apparently.
Howard Roark Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 This is JA Happ all over again. Why the f*** would you trade for Beckham when you can just sign a 1-win player? Inefficiency is the new efficiency.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Anyone else have a feeling that AA is just trying to get a bunch of fringe major leaguers hoping one turns into another Bautista. I mean fack this is dumb if true.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 This is JA Happ all over again. Why the f*** would you trade for Beckham when you can just sign a 1-win player? Especially in the off-season! At least the Happ deal was mid-season!
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Why? What if all it takes is a guy like Pillar? The Jays already have Kawasaki and Goins, what do they need another 1 WAR 2B for?
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 99% of the rumors regarding the Jays seem to be completely made up by some bored sportswriter. Let's wait until a deal actually happens before we start ranting.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Sale is the only player on that team we need. So he kinda needs to be included. Although you just know his elbow would blow out the first day of ST under our training staff. Even with just Sale coming this way what could the Jays really offer? IMO it'd be something like Sanchez/Stroman + Hutchison + some other less significant young pieces. In theory this may be approaching fair value for the Sox. However, young elite players locked up on team friendly deals are rarely traded and, when they are it is a sellers market. If The WSox were to shop Sale they would surely receive league-wide interest. They have no incentive to move Sale at this point and it would take a truly elite prospect, the type that the Jays do not possess, to land Sale. It just isn't going to happen.
DuckDuckGose Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Neither of those guys are 1 WAR and Beckham should be above 1. They ere all bench players.
Laika Community Moderator Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Gordon Beckham has been so f***ing bad that his trade value is basically nil at this point. This could be fine, maybe they get Beckham for almost nothing and then bury Izturis behind Steam Whistle + sign a bargain bin FA to compete with Gord. Don't get your panties in a bundle over nothing.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 I'd rather see the Jays go after Danny Espinosa, especially if the Nats non-tender him. He's proven capable to be a 2-3 WAR player, and he's a year younger than Beckham as well.
Nox Verified Member Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Lol. Perfect. I mean, a rational team that owned Beckham would at least ask the question "Do we non tender this guy"?
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