TBJ12 Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I realize nobody believed the Dickey trade, I didn't believe it myself. Even with that said I don't believe there's a chance in hell AA would do that deal.
TBJ12 Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I really don't like people altering quotes and keeping the username attached. If you want to alter someone's quote fine, but at least remove the username.
mitchf Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Aaron Sanchez for Gordon Beckham would fit right in line with what Alex seems to want to do with this baseball team.
havok24 Old-Timey Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I realize nobody believed the Dickey trade, I didn't believe it myself. Even with that said I don't believe there's a chance in hell AA would do that deal. "We loved Stroman, but second base has been a bit of a weak spot for us, and we couldn't pass on the opportunity to add a guy in Gordon who has the potential to be a 20 HR and 80 RBI guy. Two seasons ago he had 16 homers and we felt that adding that power at 2B would make us a stronger team, so we felt giving up an arm like Marcus was well worth it. This is a guy who has been around winners his whole life. From Ozzie to Konerko to Buehrle and so forth, we feel he has been instructed to play the game the right way and we see tremendous value in that. This is also a guy who was a top 50 prospect in baseball a few years back, so we feel there is still some considerable upside left in him to be untapped into. When we found out he was available, we went to Beest, and without hesitation he told us to do it. That's the commitment we have from ownership - we identified a piece that we needed and had the means to go out and get it." - AA
Jays Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Aaron Sanchez for Gordon Beckham would fit right in line with what Alex seems to want to do with this baseball team. You forgot the hard throwing relief pitcher in that deal.
mitchf Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 You forgot the hard throwing relief pitcher in that deal. Hutchison for Carter Capps will likely go down a couple weeks later.
Sammy225 Old-Timey Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I'd lose my s*** if we gave up AJ for him. He's a f***ing bust. To be honest I don't see Jimenez providing much more value. Maybe it is just me being pessimistic because every catcher that comes through are system is s***.
mitchf Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 "We loved Stroman from our standpoint, but second base has been a bit of a weak spot for us, and from that standpoint we couldn't pass on the opportunity to add a guy in Gordon who has the potential to be a 20 HR and 80 RBI guy. Two seasons ago he had 16 homers and we felt that adding that power at 2B would make us a stronger team, so we felt giving up an arm like Marcus was well worth it. This is a guy who has been around winners his whole life. From Ozzie to Konerko to Buehrle and so forth, we feel he has been instructed to play the game the right way and we see tremendous value in that. This is also a guy who was a top 50 prospect in baseball a few years back, so we feel there is still some considerable upside left in him to be untapped into. When we found out he was available, we went to Beest, and without hesitation he told us to do it. That's the commitment we have from ownership - we identified a piece that we needed and had the means to go out and get it." - AA You can add this saying in about every sentence for a better representation.
leaffie Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Who wrote this article leaffie, it's just more conjecture coming out of Chicago and these writers are riding the coat-tails of the original leak. Baseball Blasphemy!! A.J. Mass, whoever he is.
Jays Verified Member Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 To be honest I don't see Jimenez providing much more value. Maybe it is just me being pessimistic because every catcher that comes through are system is s***. Yan Gomes?
ace3113 Verified Member Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 The only second basemen I would consider trading Stroman for are Kendrick 2.7WAR (ANA) or Neil Walker 2.7 WAR (PIT). Apparently the Rangers are looking to salary dump Kinsler. He shouldn't cost Stroman given his salary (16mm this year and next) but is worth 2.5 WAR in an average year. Maybe something around one of our excess starters or relievers. I wonder if they'd be interested in Drabek as a reclamation project. Our biggest need after number 1 pitcher though should be catcher. The Brewers need prospects desperately and aren't going anywhere for a few years. I would consider Stroman for Lucroy 3.6 WAR. One of the most underrated catchers in baseball offensively and defensively. If not sign Carlos Ruiz (averages about 2.5 WAR).
GD Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 The only second basemen I would consider trading Stroman for are Kendrick 2.7WAR (ANA) or Neil Walker 2.7 WAR (PIT). Walker ain't going anywhere imo. I wouldn't mind that though. Apparently the Rangers are looking to salary dump Kinsler. He shouldn't cost Stroman given his salary (16mm this year and next) but is worth 2.5 WAR in an average year. Maybe something around one of our excess starters or relievers. I wonder if they'd be interested in Drabek as a reclamation project. We'd need a lot more than Drabek. Our biggest need after number 1 pitcher though should be catcher. The Brewers need prospects desperately and aren't going anywhere for a few years. I would consider Stroman for Lucroy 3.6 WAR. One of the most underrated catchers in baseball offensively and defensively. I would give a lot more than Stroman for Lucroy. If not sign Carlos Ruiz (averages about 2.5 WAR). "our whole f***ing team is a 2 year stopgap so why not Ruiz" My thoughts in bold.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 ITT: Posters casually pull a pre-prime ace into a trade negotiation for a non-tender candidate. Sale has a better K%, BB%, GB% and vFB than Clayton Kershaw. And he's a year younger. But of course we can get him thrown in for our 5'9 PED user and A+ starter who's never thrown 100 IP in a season and has a career 4.7 BB/9.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 ITT: Posters casually pull a pre-prime ace into a trade negotiation for a non- tender candidate. Sale has a better K%, BB%, GB% and vFB than Clayton Kershaw. And he's a year younger. But of course we can get him thrown in for our 5'9 PED user and A+ starter who's never thrown 100 IP in a season and has a career 4.7 BB/9. Lol. So true
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 "We loved Stroman, but second base has been a bit of a weak spot for us, and we couldn't pass on the opportunity to add a guy in Gordon who has the potential to be a 20 HR and 80 RBI guy. Two seasons ago he had 16 homers and we felt that adding that power at 2B would make us a stronger team, so we felt giving up an arm like Marcus was well worth it. This is a guy who has been around winners his whole life. From Ozzie to Konerko to Buehrle and so forth, we feel he has been instructed to play the game the right way and we see tremendous value in that. This is also a guy who was a top 50 prospect in baseball a few years back, so we feel there is still some considerable upside left in him to be untapped into. When we found out he was available, we went to Beest, and without hesitation he told us to do it. That's the commitment we have from ownership - we identified a piece that we needed and had the means to go out and get it." - AA I am loving these realistic AA ramblings. God does that guy ramble, though I guess he has to since he has no idea what he's doing.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 ITT: Posters casually pull a pre-prime ace into a trade negotiation for a non-tender candidate. Sale has a better K%, BB%, GB% and vFB than Clayton Kershaw. And he's a year younger. But of course we can get him thrown in for our 5'9 PED user and A+ starter who's never thrown 100 IP in a season and has a career 4.7 BB/9. To think that at one point we could have simply traded Deck McGuire for him.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 "We loved Stroman, but second base has been a bit of a weak spot for us, and we couldn't pass on the opportunity to add a guy in Gordon who has the potential to be a 20 HR and 80 RBI guy. Two seasons ago he had 16 homers and we felt that adding that power at 2B would make us a stronger team, so we felt giving up an arm like Marcus was well worth it. This is a guy who has been around winners his whole life. From Ozzie to Konerko to Buehrle and so forth, we feel he has been instructed to play the game the right way and we see tremendous value in that. This is also a guy who was a top 50 prospect in baseball a few years back, so we feel there is still some considerable upside left in him to be untapped into. When we found out he was available, we went to Beest, and without hesitation he told us to do it. That's the commitment we have from ownership - we identified a piece that we needed and had the means to go out and get it." - AA f*** AA and his fat greek sports gut! both of them should be institutionalized
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