JP Arencebia BLOWS UP Zaun and Hayhurst!

[Angrioter]

Zaun is damn smart.

Great responses

 

JP, eres un maricon cubano que no sabe una mierda acerca de baseball

[leaffie]

He also had a fair amount to say about "real" fans. As opposed to those non real ones that pay their money and buy those tickets. He came across as a pompous, arrogant jerk. Just as I always thought. I guess real fans don't criticize.

[Chappy]

He also had a fair amount to say about "real" fans. As opposed to those non real ones that pay their money and buy those tickets. He came across as a pompous, arrogant jerk. Just as I always thought. I guess real fans don't criticize.

 

LOL, JPA is a complete joke. I just hope he keeps running his mouth and AA feels the pressure to move him in the winter.

[P2F]

I'm honestly amazed that apparently not a single f***ing person in the org told JP to shut his mouth after the first radio incident. How does that happen?

[Chappy]

I'm honestly amazed that apparently not a single f***ing person in the org told JP to shut his mouth after the first radio incident. How does that happen?

 

Its pathetic. JPA thinks he runs this team.

[Abomination]

Change of scenery wouldn't help, he's just not a very good baseball player. Hopefully AA realises this and isn't afraid to send him packing

 

By change of scenery I meant he needs to be sent packing. I actually think he does have the ability to be a top 10 catcher, but seems to lack the understanding of what one IS.

[P2F]

Its pathetic. JPA thinks he runs this team.

 

Such entitlement.

[Chappy]

Such entitlement.

 

I could understand it if he was actually good, but he f***ing sucks.

[P2F]

I could understand it if he was actually good, but he f***ing sucks.

 

It would definitely be more tolerable, no doubt.

[IronLadle]

how do like him now?

[Frenchsoup]

how do like him now?

 

Price threw an 0-2 fastball down the pipe hes stupid.

[P2F]

how do like him now?

 

He's still despicable, obviously.

[over500]

how do like him now?

A homerun, and all of a sudden, he's Barry Bonds? Scrub is still a scrub.

[havok24]

Can we just release this bum already?

[over500]

Can we just release this bum already?

but, hiz HOME RUN POWERZ

[jays_fever]

Price threw an 0-2 fastball down the pipe hes stupid.

 

Yes a major league athlete missing his location with a fastball makes him stupid

[Boxcar]

I'm honestly amazed that apparently not a single f***ing person in the org told JP to shut his mouth after the first radio incident. How does that happen?

 

The guys running it aren't very smart.

[Frenchsoup]

Yes a major league athlete missing his location with a fastball makes him stupid

 

it's stupid if you read the scouting reports and know you can get ceeb to chase.

[Angrioter]

JP Arencibia VS Socrates And Selective Misanthropy

 

One day, while walking through the markets of ancient Greece, the great philosopher Socrates was insulted.

 

His way of life, intelligence and sanity were all called into question by a thundering fellow Greek.

 

The crowded market hushed and waited for Socrates to reply, but, instead of returning fire, Socrates ignored the remark and went about his business.

 

A bystander, confused as to why Socrates chose not to defend his honour against such snide words, caught up with him and asked: why?

 

Socrates replied, “Do you think I should resent it if an ass had kicked me?”

 

Socrates felt it was wrong to resent a dumb, brutish animal for doing what dumb brutish animals do.

 

Furthermore, because Socrates could recognize the insult as the product of man uneducated on the matter of who Socrates was and that which defined him, the snide words held no power.

 

Walking away: Mankind learned this concept early — around 469 B.C., to be exact — but that doesn’t mean it stuck.

 

Beginning in Renaissance Italy and lasting well into 17th century Europe, if a man’s honour was insulted publicly, the appropriate response was to challenge the offender to a duel.

 

Hundreds of thousands of European lives were lost because of such duels, sparked by things as personal as a man’s sexual potency to as trite as their choice of apartment decor.

 

In today’s social media age, I can’t help but think of how many lives would be lost if dueling was still an acceptable form of conflict resolution.

 

Just the throng of hateful slurs awaiting the average athlete after a rough game would produce enough duels to bring humanity to an end.

 

There are no longer duels to the death, but there are still insults in the marketplace. There are still ass kickings. There is still the delicate balance of measuring the appraisals of others against the appraisals of self.

 

I was the first Blue Jay to get a Twitter account and I took my share of flack for doing it.

 

I was told I was breaking the code; that no one on the outside of the game needed to know what we players did on the inside. Twitter was just another way to betray and offend your teammates, and should therefore be outlawed.

 

But soon something even bigger than the code took over. Something bigger than baseball.

 

Something I could never have foreseen but was known plainly to Socrates, Diogenes, Chamfort, Kant, Descartes and so many other brilliant observers of the human condition.

 

That inner need, the same we in sports often dress up as competitiveness but has always been recognition and acceptance, took over.

 

Twitter was a quick way to connect with those who held us in high position. Through their eyes, we held ourselves in higher standing. It’s a very addictive feeling.

 

Yes, social media was a way to broadcast our personal, unfiltered message and build our brand, but it was also a way of soak up affirmation.

 

Social media is an efficient way for us, athlete or otherwise, to tend to the chronic uncertainty we have concerning our own value in the world.

 

We compete for approval. Some of us on a large scale, some on a small. For the athlete, it’s quite simple – the only way you’re the best is if someone acknowledges you as such.

 

You’re always looking for approval.

 

Ironic since, while pursuing your status of “the best”, if you ask anyone if you should care about what others think, they’ll give you a fervent “No!”

 

The clever of the bunch might say “it depends on the context” or “if it’s beneficial,” but, even with a few filters applied, they’ll all agree that other people don’t have the right to tell you what to think about yourself.

 

And yet, we live in a world where honour is protected, not in duels, but in angry comment boxes demanding to be listened to.

 

A duplicitous world where a person can say “listen to me, court my favour” from one side of his mouth and “don’t listen to anyone but yourself” from the other.

 

Big league athletes are not immune. They have no special shield to it, or clarity that makes sense of it. They may tune out more people, but only because they have more opportunities to tune people out.

 

They’re right at the forefront of philosophy’s greatest teachings. And, just like it has been for centuries, the result of acting on or reacting to the ignorance of others is just as fruitless as it’s ever been — except for one key difference: the market place today is infinite.

 

There, on your phone, or laptop, or iPad is an ass, ready and waiting to kick. Piped directly to you through that direct connection you’re making with your social following.

 

The dueling gauntlet is always thrown down, always challenging you to take your pistol and walk 140 characters before turning and firing.

 

When J.P. Arencibia got off Twitter, there was part of me that thought of him as a coward. If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

 

But, the more I thought about it, the more I wish I could get out of the kitchen myself.

 

At some point, you just get tired of dodging the hooves.

 

But getting out of the market completely is impossible for those of us whose job puts us in the public eye. We can, however, at the very least, mitigate it. We can log out and walk away.

 

“Grow a thicker skin,” you say, and I hear you.

 

But it’s not an issue of thick skin. No man was meant to be stimulated as much as we are today. No man was mean to sift each and every backhanded comment made to them.

 

If you are the type of person particularly addicted to the affirmation of others, the only way to survive is to leave the marketplace altogether.

 

Socrates did an excellent job of recognizing man’s tendency to be altered by the unchecked opinions of others. He also did the world a favour by setting up a useful checking system called “reason”. Even so, over time, he developed a rather misanthropic view of mankind. In fact, almost all philosophers do.

 

Man, most philosophers say, in bulk, mankind tends to get collectively dumber, rasher and less useful.

 

I guess it’s appropriate then that social media says you’re more important, more valuable and more loved the higher your follower totals grow.

 

The bottom line is, all of us want to be liked and valued. Some of us more than others. Some of us will go to further extremes to satisfy that need.

 

But all of us have to keep in perspective the source we’re choosing to extract that value from.

 

If we can’t, like some great thinker from centuries past, sift between that which matters and that which does not, is it not then wise to leave the marketplace?

 

Social media, nameless fans, webpage trolls, salacious newspapers — they’re not the places that derive our worth.

 

And even if they mock us as cowards for shrugging and walking away, does it matter?

 

In the end, the truly satisfied are not those who have the approval of everyone, but those who are satisfied with the approval of one.

 

 

http://dirkhayhurst.com/2013/07/jp-arencibia-vs-socrates-and-selective-misanthropy/

[Deadpool]

http://dirkhayhurst.com/2013/07/jp-arencibia-vs-socrates-and-selective-misanthropy/

 

I love Hayhurst's writing, I really need to get a copy of his second book because the first one was awesome.

 

Also, he totally just implied that JPA is a "dumb brutish animal"

[Angrioter]

I love Hayhurst's writing, I really need to get a copy of his second book because the first one was awesome.

 

Also, he totally just implied that JPA is a "dumb brutish animal"

 

#Top10Catcher or #DumbBrutishAnimal

[Boxcar]

I love Hayhurst's writing, I really need to get a copy of his second book because the first one was awesome.

 

Also, he totally just implied that JPA is a "dumb brutish animal"

 

You completely misread that. This was more of a JPA defense piece, which is pretty lame of Hayhurst to write imo.

[Deadpool]

You completely misread that. This was more of a JPA defense piece.

 

I didn't completely misread it, I think the bulk of it was a defence of JPA (from the much, much bigger man), but I do think that line in particular was a shot at JPA's attacks on Zaun and Hayhurst.

[Boxcar]

I didn't completely misread it, I think the bulk of it was a defence of JPA (from the much, much bigger man), but I do think that line in particular was a shot at JPA's attacks on Zaun and Hayhurst.

 

No, it was just a general analysis on human behaviour...dunno what you're reading. If anything, he'd be referring to JPA and other pro athletes as Socrates.

[Howard Roark]

I didn't completely misread it, I think the bulk of it was a defence of JPA (from the much, much bigger man), but I do think that line in particular was a shot at JPA's attacks on Zaun and Hayhurst.

 

 

No, you just completely misread it.

[Deadpool]

No, it was just a general analysis on human behaviour...dunno what you're reading. If anything, he'd be referring to JPA and other pro athletes as Socrates.

 

You'll note that he made mention of himself being the first Blue Jay to have a tweeter, and adding in the fact that he barely acknowledged the fact that JPA went off against him and I'm fairly sure that if he didn't outright say it, he considers JPA's attacks the attacks of a "dumb brutish animal". His Socrates story perfectly mirrors his reactions to JPA's ranting, does it not?

[Angrioter]

You completely misread that. This was more of a JPA defense piece, which is pretty lame of Hayhurst to write imo.

 

I didn't completely misread it, I think the bulk of it was a defence of JPA (from the much, much bigger man), but I do think that line in particular was a shot at JPA's attacks on Zaun and Hayhurst.

 

Sound like:

Rage Against the Machine - Killing in the name of

 

Dirk is accusing the fans for f*** him and cleaning the JPA name.

[o2cui2i]

No, it was just a general analysis on human behaviour...dunno what you're reading. If anything, he'd be referring to JPA and other pro athletes as Socrates.

 

it's an article repeating something that all intelligent people know and that is that MOST people are stupid and perpetually insecure. that the opinion of the stupid person is of no value. if humanity had this tucked away there would never be another bar fight, but....

 

Hayhurst did go a little out of his way to make sure that it was not to be construed as a shot at JPA, which is fine, but I dont think JPA will see it that way.

 

if you are a top athlete you have to be able to let things just bounce, the adulation as well as the defecation and find your value in your own heart.

 

JPA's problem is that lately even he realizes he is a steaming sack of s***. it's been boiling in him for a while and even though he has been coming out saying that he is great, deep in his heart he knows he is not the player he thought he was. that's why the defensive shots came out. not because JPA was feeling offended. he's questioning his self worth for the first time in his life and after he has been weighed and measured, he has come up oh so short of who he pictured himself to be. he just doens't know how to deal with it. he's been fawned over since he was a prepubescent youngster and now the world is telling him something different and the fact he knows they are right is killing him.

[Boxcar]

You'll note that he made mention of himself being the first Blue Jay to have a tweeter, and adding in the fact that he barely acknowledged the fact that JPA went off against him and I'm fairly sure that if he didn't outright say it, he considers JPA's attacks the attacks of a "dumb brutish animal". His Socrates story perfectly mirrors his reactions to JPA's ranting, does it not?

 

Because Hayhurst is such a stirrer of the pot that he'd directly refer to JPA as a "dumb, brutish animal" right? Especially after taking the high road this whole time and making this whole article about the defense of JP. Use some common sense.

[Boxcar]

it's an article repeating something that all intelligent people know and that is that MOST people are stupid and perpetually insecure. that the opinion of the stupid person is of no value. if humanity had this tucked away there would never be another bar fight, but....

 

Hayhurst did go a little out of his way to make sure that it was not to be construed as a shot at JPA, which is fine, but I dont think JPA will see it that way.

 

if you are a top athlete you have to be able to let things just bounce, the adulation as well as the defecation and find your value in your own heart.

 

JPA's problem is that lately even he realizes he is a steaming sack of s***. it's been boiling in him for a while and even though he has been coming out saying that he is great, deep in his heart he knows he is not the player he thought he was. that's why the defensive shots came out. not because JPA was feeling offended. he's questioning his self worth for the first time in his life and after he has been weighed and measured, he has come up oh so short of who he pictured himself to be. he just doens't know how to deal with it. he's been fawned over since he was a prepubescent youngster and now the world is telling him something different and the fact he knows they are right is killing him.

 

Seems quite possible, even likely. JPA is a pretty big ignoramus, though, so it's far from a sure thing. Also, wtf is up with bolding that whole post?