NBA Thread

[glory]

The problem with the Sixers is that Simmons and Embiid don't mesh together at all. Without Butler there to create off the dribble for them, they'll find it difficult to score in the playoffs.

 

What else can you say about the Raps? Don't have Lowry and Ibaka again, but still find a way to win. They have a legit 10 man rotation when those two come back (Lowry-FVV-OG-Pascal-Gasol starting and then Ibaka-Boucher-RHJ-Norm-Davis off the bench).

[jaysblue]

What a great game! Was down there tonight! First game of the season for me and managed to see the best one so far!

[Dr. Dinger]

NN and Gasol own Embiid so hard it’s absurd. Other teams need to study that tape.

[glory]

The Sixers really nuked their future. The team we saw today is basically the culmination of The Process. That was it. They squandered so many assets and none of the pieces fit.

 

The Harris trade and then subsequent re-signing is just shocking.

 

Yeah, they had to re-sign Butler and Reddick even if they didn't want to pay for it. Instead they chose Harris and Horford. Defensively they should be good, but Simmons can't shoot, Embiid can't work off of Simmons because of that, and they don't have the shooting around those two to help either one.

[dineke]

The Sixers really nuked their future. The team we saw today is basically the culmination of The Process. That was it. They squandered so many assets and none of the pieces fit.

 

The Harris trade and then subsequent re-signing is just shocking.

 

The process almost came together but then they fired hinkie for colangelo lol

[Frag]

Pascal for MVP.

OG for MIP & Defensive Player of the Year.

Davis for 6th Man & ROY.

 

Am I missing anything?

[43211234]

Pascal for MVP.

OG for MIP & Defensive Player of the Year.

Davis for 6th Man & ROY.

 

Am I missing anything?

 

Nick Nurse CotY

[Chappy]

Pascal for MVP.

OG for MIP & Defensive Player of the Year.

Davis for 6th Man & ROY.

 

Am I missing anything?

 

Pascal may very well win MIP again this season.

 

Nurse will likely be a heavy contender for COTY.

[Abomination]

FVV might be a candidate for MIP too.

[Chappy]

It’s going to be interesting to see how minutes play out when Lowry and Ibaka are back. Definitely a good position for Nurse to be in.

[Dr. Dinger]

The Raptors have such an incredible point guard duo, it’s really such a treat to watch. Two all-star calibre PGs. FVV is going to get paid, and may actually be better than Lowry at this point.

[Abomination]

I'd hate to be a Jazz player in the locker room at half time.

[Dick_Pole]

It's one thing to do this to the Knicks or Hornets or Bulls...but to an actual NBA team.

 

Raptors were only 2.5 favourites in this game. When will Vegas give them respect? I haven't checked but I'm guessing the Raptors record against the spread this year is one of the best if not the best in the league.

[Orgfiller]

Well the Jazz certainly got the message. They haven't missed in the third quarter, and the effort level from both teams has flipped entirely.

[Frag]

Raps win by 20 against one of the best teams in the West.

 

#WeTheChamps

[Krylian]

Raps win by 20 against one of the best teams in the West.

 

#WeTheChamps

 

That sounds great on the surface, until you realize they had a 40 point lead at the half. Terrible 3rd quarter. But a win is a win.

[Dick_Pole]

Holy f***. I'll take a 40 point halftime lead and a 20 point win any day. Garbage time. The Raptors were right back on their game when the lead was cut to 16.

[Carlos Danger]

That sounds great on the surface, until you realize they had a 40 point lead at the half. Terrible 3rd quarter. But a win is a win.

 

I s*** my pants

[Krylian]

I s*** my pants

 

We expect nothing less.

[Frag]

Meanwhile...

 

[Laika]

Meanwhile...

 

 

It's amazing how well-rounded Davis is.

 

Defense - check

Threes - check

Finishing at the rim - check

Dribbling in traffic - check

Good enough size to dunk, contribute on the glass

[Frag]

It's amazing how well-rounded Davis is.

 

Defense - check

Threes - check

Finishing at the rim - check

Dribbling in traffic - check

Good enough size to dunk, contribute on the glass

 

FVV, Davis, Boucher, and Matt Thomas.

 

All undrafted.

 

Insane player development.

[Orgfiller]

Meanwhile...

 

 

Davis is fantastic by all means, a real gem uncovered by our scouting department and testament to our player development, but I wonder how much team effects are coming into play here. I'm surprised Ja Morant rates out THAT poorly even though the majority of his negative contributions are on defense which is understandable for a rookie. But still, for him to not be above some of the players who rate out better than him is questionable and makes me wonder if their model is punishing him for being on the floor with lesser players, unlike Davis and the Heat rookies.

[Frag]

Davis is fantastic by all means, a real gem uncovered by our scouting department and testament to our player development, but I wonder how much team effects are coming into play here. I'm surprised Ja Morant rates out THAT poorly even though the majority of his negative contributions are on defense which is understandable for a rookie. But still, for him to not be above some of the players who rate out better than him is questionable and makes me wonder if their model is punishing him for being on the floor with lesser players, unlike Davis and the Heat rookies.

 

I believe RAPTOR utilizes player tracking into its model, which likely teases out teammate effects.

[Dr. Dinger]

It's amazing how well-rounded Davis is.

 

Defense - check

Threes - check

Finishing at the rim - check

Dribbling in traffic - check

Good enough size to dunk, contribute on the glass

 

In addition to his raw skills, I've been really impressed by his decision-making in passing, shot-taking, and when to reach for a steal. He seems to really understand that he needs to play within a system to earn PT from Nurse and is basically modeling his game after FVV to great effect. I don't think it's a reach to say that Davis could be a starting PG on some bottom 10 teams.

[Laika]

In addition to his raw skills, I've been really impressed by his decision-making in passing, shot-taking, and when to reach for a steal. He seems to really understand that he needs to play within a system to earn PT from Nurse and is basically modeling his game after FVV to great effect. I don't think it's a reach to say that Davis could be a starting PG on some bottom 10 teams.

 

you mean SG?

 

i don't really understand basketball positions anyway. other than the obvious lumbering centres and tiny little point guards, everything seems largely meaningless in this era

 

terence davis is the player norman powell has always wanted to be

[Dr. Dinger]

I see him as more of a PG than SG with his handle, but the distinction is blurrier than ever. FVV is a PG but also one of the best shooters in the NBA. Really positions are irrelevant these days, though. Ben Simmons is a centre masquerading as a PG and Kristaps is an SG in a C’s body. It’s basically gotten to the point where if you aren’t viable at 3 positions, you’re a dodo.

[jaysguy44]

FVV, Davis, Boucher, and Matt Thomas.

 

All undrafted.

 

Insane player development.

 

Matt Thomas sucks ass

[Krylian]

Lowry 1/12 from the floor.

[Spanky99]

Not hitting any shots.