Possible Trade and Free Agent Scenarios

[GD]

LOL. I'll have whatever you're smoking, it must be some good s***. That is like a 160 million dollar payroll.

 

Look at the username bro.

[Stangstag]

and still an unreliable team. I think we have should expect significant injuries from Lawrie and Morrow every year. They will never have full healthy seasons.

[Stangstag]

Look at the username bro.

 

oh. I feel stupid

[DuckDuckGose]

The way I see it, catcher should be filled on the FA market. 2B will probably have to be filled via trade, and pitcher may be fillable by either.

 

There are some stop gap C's in FA that could help but, their will be heavy competition for them. If you want good catching you almost have to develop it yourself (or pay a king's ransom for one). I feel Ruiz and McCann would be good fits as well but, not on long term deals.

 

There will be MIF'ers better than Izturis and DeRosa available in FA and through trade. AA will have lots of options but he needs to target a premium defender more so than a big bat.

 

AA can definitely get some pitching depth through FA this off-season and there will be a few choices. If he feel;s the team needs a front-end SP a trade is the only way.

[GD]

There's always decent stop-gap catching available, if not via the FA market then via trade.

 

David Ross would've been purty in the market of stop gap catching.

[DuckDuckGose]

There's always decent stop-gap catching available, if not via the FA market then via trade.

 

Yup and they are all better than JPA.

[DuckDuckGose]

David Ross would've been purty in the market of stop gap catching.

 

If they planned on trading d'Arnaud they should of been all over Russel Martin. Pitt is lucky to have him.

[GD]

If they planned on trading d'Arnaud they should of been all over Russel Martin. Pitt is lucky to have him.

 

He's not a stop-gap though. But he would have been so, so, so nice.

[Abomination]

I wonder if Arizona would consider moving Prado, or the Nats Rendon? Daniel Murphy could have some appeal - at least his bad defense comes with a nice bat. Overall, I really think Kinsler makes the most sense for us to go after (if he's at least partially available).

[GD]

I wonder if Arizona would consider moving Prado, or the Nats Rendon? Daniel Murphy could have some appeal - at least his bad defense comes with a nice bat. Overall, I really think Kinsler makes the most sense for us to go after (if he's at least partially available).

 

I would put the chances of that happening somewhere in the -8% range lol.

[Abomination]

I would put the chances of that happening somewhere in the -8% range lol.

 

Btw, I sent you a trade proposal the other day. Are you interested in it, thinking about it, or should I cancel it? I hate leaving them open for too long.

[jays_fever]

Ill second everyone who has put Kinslers name out there. Unfortunately we wont be able to afford him even if he did want to come here because we bought 2 huge free agent contracts this past off season for good prospects, but yea he would be a great option to put beside Reyes

[GD]

Btw, I sent you a trade proposal the other day. Are you interested in it, thinking about it, or should I cancel it? I hate leaving them open for too long.

 

Sorry about that. I'm not really all that interested in Scutaro but I like the concept of the trade.

 

I sent you a counter.

[GD]

JFaS, I like yours the best. Only thing I disagree with is that I want Rogers gone, but the rest is awesome. And I don't think Cano signs here.

 

The Mets may give Domingo Tapia for Rasmus.

[GD]

If Cano doesn't sign with the Yankees, he might want to sign here if Rogers ponies up the cash. He's good friends with Melky, Reyes, EE, and Bautista. He's also no longer with Boras. But it's probably just a dream.

 

Like you said, ponying up the cash matters. Money talks. And the Dodgers probably aren't satisfied with Mark Ellis.

 

If Lind leaving frees up $7M, and we get $25M from revenue sharing, then the most I'd go on Cano is $23MM / year, most I'd go is 7 years.

[Abomination]

There's no way 1.5 years of Rasmus would get us Cingrani, but maybe there could be framework for a deal there somewhere. It also looks like they're going to use Hamilton as a center fielder, so how much need they have may be up in the air.

[GD]

There's no way 1.5 years of Rasmus would get us Cingrani, but maybe there could be framework for a deal there somewhere. It also looks like they're going to use Hamilton as a center fielder, so how much need they have may be up in the air.

 

Hamilton has a lot of margin for error and I see no reason Rasmus wouldn't at least get us Leake.

[TheHurl]

I really don't think the Jays will look for a 2B. Maybe if the right deal fell in their lap and they could move Izturis to the 25th man. The Jays will/should be looking at pitchers pitchers pitchers. Does anyone actually believe that half a year of JJ gets a top 50 prospect? Does anyone believe that AA will be targeting not near ready prospects again?

[Flashman]

Does anyone actually believe that half a year of JJ gets a top 50 prospect? Does anyone believe that AA will be targeting not near ready prospects again?

 

I think that depends on how JJ does with his remaining starts. If he does well, then sure, there will probably be a desperate GM out there, thinking of their career, wanting to make a splash in the playoffs. And I think AA does understand that value is value; a young prospect frees up another prospect to be traded for a ML-ready player, say.

[G-Snarls]

Yovani Gallardo - Another reclamation project for Anthopoulos???

 

Who'd be interested???

 

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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/06/trade-candidate-yovani-gallardo.html

[DuckDuckGose]

Yovani Gallardo - Another reclamation project for Anthopoulos???

 

Who'd be interested???

 

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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/06/trade-candidate-yovani-gallardo.html

 

If the Jays are planning a big off-season then adding some SP depth while it is available makes sense. Gallardo alone doesn't improve this team enough for me to make a real strong push but he is under control for another season so if the price is right I'd at least entertain the idea.

 

Gallardo + Lucroy would help this team a lot though.

[GD]

Yovani Gallardo - Another reclamation project for Anthopoulos???

 

Who'd be interested???

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Me. I think Nolin+ gets it done.

 

If the Jays are planning a big off-season then adding some SP depth while it is available makes sense. Gallardo alone doesn't improve this team enough for me to make a real strong push but he is under control for another season so if the price is right I'd at least entertain the idea.

 

Gallardo + Lucroy would help this team a lot though.

 

Gose + Nolin + Jimenez + Alford would probably get it done, and I'd do that.

[TheHurl]

Hamilton has a lot of margin for error and I see no reason Rasmus wouldn't at least get us Leake.

 

Cincy moved Stubbs in the off season because he struck out too much. Not sure how they'd even view Rasmus...especially since it moves a guy to the bench who has been very effective so far (X-Paul). Heisey is terribly offensively flawed but he's back soon too. Robinson is just killing lefties and would probably play over Rasmus against lefties anyway.

[G-Snarls]

Gallardo would make more sense if we didn't already have an expensive reclamation project SP in AAA...

 

(Project codename RickyRo)

[GD]

Cincy moved Stubbs in the off season because he struck out too much. Not sure how they'd even view Rasmus...especially since it moves a guy to the bench who has been very effective so far (X-Paul). Heisey is terribly offensively flawed but he's back soon too. Robinson is just killing lefties and would probably play over Rasmus against lefties anyway.

 

Rasmus is succeeding (somewhat) in spite of the K's, though, whereas Stubbs isn't, but I see the rest of your point. I think we'd get Leake but I don't think CIN is where he'd end up, although if he broke out there, that'd just be the biggest middle finger to the Cardinals, lol.

[GD]

This is a dream, but I wonder what a trade involving Austin Hedges to Toronto would look like.

[Chappy]

If AA is going to make a big splash I would much rather he go after a big bat like Cano, not anti up for expensive SP only to watch it blowup again. Cano has been pretty durable and would be a significant addition.

 

In terms of pitching, would rather just go after 1 or 2 year deal types like the Yanks did with Kuroda. Not going to be cheap on an annual basis, but takes a lot of long-term risk out of the equation and allows this team to hopefully develop an arm or two internally.

 

Investing big money long-term into SP is just a horrible idea.

[GD]

If AA is going to make a big splash I would much rather he go after a big bat like Cano, not anti up for expensive SP only to watch it blowup again. Cano has been pretty durable and would be a significant addition.

 

In terms of pitching, would rather just go after 1 or 2 year deal types like the Yanks did with Kuroda. Not going to be cheap on an annual basis, but takes a lot of long-term risk out of the equation and allows this team to hopefully develop an arm or two internally.

 

Investing big money long-term into SP is just a horrible idea.

 

The only pitchers I would think fit the 1 or 2 year deal requirements this FA class would be Dan Haren, AJ Burnett, Scott Baker, Roy Halladay, Tim Hudson, or Ubaldo Jimenez.

[Chappy]

The only pitchers I would think fit the 1 or 2 year deal requirements this FA class would be Dan Haren, AJ Burnett, Scott Baker, Roy Halladay, Tim Hudson, or Ubaldo Jimenez.

 

I would much rather that route. Patch up the rotation and let the young arms have time to develop. Eventually phase the younger arms into the rotation (what little we have right now) and follow the Rays model of dealing them off before they get expensive.

 

The Jays have the means to play with moderate to big payrolls, and I would much rather see that money put into the offense.

[G-Snarls]

I would much rather that route. Patch up the rotation and let the young arms have time to develop. Eventually phase the younger arms into the rotation (what little we have right now) and follow the Rays model of dealing them off before they get expensive.

 

The Jays have the means to play with moderate to big payrolls, and I would much rather see that money put into the offense.

 

Agree

 

We have little potential offense in the pipeline

 

But we still have some pitching