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It really isn't that big a deal.......s*** happens. He's a competitor with nothing upstairs, he'll calm down with age.

 

It's at least nice to see some emotion out of the guys, shows they're interested, unlike some guys we've had here over the years who've been a bit disinterested (and not the Doc-cyborg kind).

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Either:

 

a) Lawrie is too stupid to realize that a sac flly in the 9th when you are down 3 runs is not helpful.

or

B) Lawrie doesn't care about winning, and just wants to keep his BA where it is, and add an RBI.

 

I'm not sure which is worse.

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You can only use the "he is young" excuse so many times.

True but in my opinion in his case he seems to have more to learn that the average youngster playing after his first full season. He has a lot of energy, plays a terrific defence, and his bat will come around. I will be a tad more patient with him however I will not let things slip - I will let him know when he does wrong and why it was wrong.

 

Sometimes you have to take responsiblity for your actions and understand you can't do whatever you want, whenever you want.

I am not aware of any situation where he has not taken responsibility for his actions. I do not follow him on twitter so I am not aware of what he has said to come across this way. Has he?

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Yep the biggest issue I have with the guy is that hes showing no signs of learning from his actions or growing up.

Just a few days ago he gets tossed for throwing equipment close to the ump and now only 2-3 days later hes basically yelling at the third base coach/player when he was in the wrong

 

When has he repeated an action for which he has been made aware of? It's true he has a ton to learn still but I do not see him repeating errors unless you are referring to his approach at the plate. I am sure he will see how the others are adjusting at the plate and follow suit hopefully soon. ;)

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Either:

 

a) Lawrie is too stupid to realize that a sac flly in the 9th when you are down 3 runs is not helpful.

or

B) Lawrie doesn't care about winning, and just wants to keep his BA where it is, and add an RBI.

 

I'm not sure which is worse.

 

Erm, B is kinda f***ing obviously worse.

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I actually think A is worse. He's a professional baseball player - not understanding such a common game situation is really, really bad.

 

I'd rather have a stupid player than a selfish player. A stupid player can most likely be educated on the finer points of the game. A selfish player like Arencibia just won't listen.

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Either:

 

a) Lawrie is too stupid to realize that a sac flly in the 9th when you are down 3 runs is not helpful.

or

B) Lawrie doesn't care about winning, and just wants to keep his BA where it is, and add an RBI.

 

I'm not sure which is worse.

 

 

None of the above.... He s extremely frustrated with himself and freaked out over the first perceived wrong. It was a douche bag thing to do. But it's over.

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In Lawrie's defense, even though I said he needs to shut his mouth, the guy is just a passionate guy.

It was interesting to see his reaction when Kawasaki won it. I was curious if he was going to still be a baby and pissed off... but he was the first guy out of the dug out, a mad man like always.

The guy wants to win, period. Yes he needs to control his emotions, but the guy has a lot of passion.

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Lip reading not that great but seems like Gibbons told Lawrie .....thats BULL$&@t ....you better apologize to him after the game....
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It's at least nice to see some emotion out of the guys, shows they're interested, unlike some guys we've had here over the years who've been a bit disinterested (and not the Doc-cyborg kind).

 

So because it is emotion it's ok even though it was selfish and stupid, and ignorant towards teammates and coaches? lol. Lawrie defense out in full force. Lawire kills guy guy, it's ok he's emotional and fiery.

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I actually think A is worse. He's a professional baseball player - not understanding such a common game

situation is really, really bad.[/quote

 

Lawrie is young?

And trout, harper, Marte, machado, Moore.

 

Lawrie is young and stupid. He need to do someeteeng aboutittt like kawasaki

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I honestly think Lawrie is too stupid, stubborn and conceited to ever fully harness his potential. If I were GM, I'd be trading him ASAP.
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The way he is hitting right now, he doesn't even deserve to play.

 

5 hits in 3 and a half games sure does suck right, including a HR and 2B...if only we could ban the retards on this board

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5 hits in 3 and a half games sure does suck right, including a HR and 2B...if only we could ban the retards on this board

 

LMAO, how long have you watched baseball? Anyone can get hits in a few games he is still hitting below .200, and swings wildly and misses pitches over the plate. Until he starts doing it consistently, it's meaningless. Take your own advice.

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Discussing the Lawrie situation on XM today. Kennedy would have sent him down last night, and wouldn't bring him back for awhile. Says the team is losing with him, so what difference would it make. Stern, thinks he needs someone to sit down with him, but too talented to give up on.

 

I don't know which article Kennedy was referring to, but apparently Lawrie's sister has got into it with her opinion on the umpires. I guess there was quite a bit posted on twitter. FWIW

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LMAO, how long have you watched baseball? Anyone can get hits in a few games he is still hitting below .200, and swings wildly and misses pitches over the plate. Until he starts doing it consistently, it's meaningless. Take your own advice.

 

Stfu...bautiata hit under 200 for over a month y were u not a screaming for him to be DFA or outright cut...u are the one who hasnt watched baseball u f***ing moron

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Stfu...bautiata hit under 200 for over a month y were u not a screaming for him to be DFA or outright cut...u are the one who hasnt watched baseball u f***ing moron

 

Comparing bautista to Lawrie? LMAO, Bautista has a history of slow starts turning into great seasons, lawrie is still a guy with just potential who right now has trouble hitting 88 MPH fastballs down the pipe. HIs stats speak for themselves. Albert Pujols got off to a bad start to, buts compare them idiot. You must have some man love for Lawire, he has been amped up like a neanderthal and stinking since he got off the DL. It's OK to come out of the closet.

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Discussing the Lawrie situation on XM today. Kennedy would have sent him down last night, and wouldn't bring him back for awhile. Says the team is losing with him, so what difference would it make. Stern, thinks he needs someone to sit down with him, but too talented to give up on.

 

I don't know which article Kennedy was referring to, but apparently Lawrie's sister has got into it with her opinion on the umpires. I guess there was quite a bit posted on twitter. FWIW

 

I don't mind the idea of sending him down but he'd be f***ed in the sense that he wouldn't have Mottola to work with.

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Comparing bautista to Lawrie? LMAO, Bautista has a history of slow starts turning into great seasons, lawrie is still a guy with just potential who right now haws trouble hitting 88 MPH fastballs down the pipe. HIs stats speak for themselves. Albert Pujols got off to a bad start to, buts compare them idiot.

 

Bautista cant hit a curveball on the outside corner guess his career is over...u have to be fron canada and a fairweather jays fan if u want to demote Lawrie, he is a month behind everyone if u didnt forget. Lets see where his avg is in a month, what a dumbass.

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Bautista cant hit a curveball on the outside corner guess his career is over...u have to be fron canada and a fairweather jays fan if u want to demote Lawrie, he is a month behind everyone if u didnt forget. Lets see where his avg is in a month, what a dumbass.

 

Bautista is not having trouble with many pitches right now... derp.

 

Can you read retard? I never said demote him, I responded when you quoted a guy who said lawrie being benched 1 game is not much of a loss because he's not hitting, which he isn't, he's boni bad at the plate right now... MAybe following a conversation. You said Herp Derp he got 5 hit s in 3.5 games herp derp so that means he's somehow irreplaceable LMAO. You got the hots for red bull don't ya?

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Bautista is not having trouble with many pitches right now... derp.

 

Can you read retard? I never said demote him, I responded when you quoted a guy who said lawrie being benched 1 game is not much of a loss because he's not hitting, which he isn't, he's boni bad at the plate right now... MAybe following a conversation. You said Herp Derp he got 5 hit s in 3.5 games herp derp so that means he's somehow irreplaceable LMAO. You got the hots for red bull don't ya?

 

Hitting better than edwin, rasmus, boni, and everyone not named lind or bautista currently...over the course of the last month no...but he is hitting right now

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I would think it should depend on how he reacted when he got in the locker room, out of sight of cameras. If he was apologetic, then you have to hope he is learning something from these things. If not, then this is a symptom of a problem that is not going to go away.

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