The goal: Get back to. 500 by the end of May

[admin]

Can you f*** off with these posts already. I have no problem with not agreeing with members, or not believing in the team, but going out of your way to make these negative comments, you're just trolling, and it's f***ing annoying.

[Chappy]

Chappy, bro... I know you're cool and all, but this optimism you speak is unbelivable. I understand you trying to stir up conversation, but comeon man you're beating a dead horse

 

I LOVE the Jays, but let's be real and take off the Jays cap.. The season is over, every other AL East team is good, we are not.. we are not any good.

 

I didn't say that would happen, I was pointing out that a strong 2 weeks and this team is back in it. Am I wrong? Lets say the Jays play 12 games and go 10-2. That would have them one game under .500 still with games to play in May. Obviously I don't think that would happen, but if it did there back in it. That's my point. If I were betting, I wouldn't bet on the Jays to make it, but that doesn't mean the season is over, it just means its unlikely.

[ClevelandBrownsFan]

Can you f*** off with these posts already. I have no problem with not agreeing with members, or not believing in the team, but going out of your way to make these negative comments, you're just trolling, and it's f***ing annoying.

 

Judging by Taka's post in the OT forum: "buying a new suit" , it sounds like the dogg or a dogg wannabe.

[NiagaraJaysFan]

I didn't say that would happen, I was pointing out that a strong 2 weeks and this team is back in it. Am I wrong? Lets say the Jays play 12 games and go 10-2. That would have them one game under .500 still with games to play in May. Obviously I don't think that would happen, but if it did there back in it. That's my point. If I were betting, I wouldn't bet on the Jays to make it, but that doesn't mean the season is over, it just means its unlikely.

 

There is no way that this is out of the realm of possibility, teams do it all the time. Confidence goes a long way, look at the Leafs. Once this team starts to roll the way it should based on track records, they could definitely make it an interesting summer.

[o2cui2i]

I didn't say that would happen, I was pointing out that a strong 2 weeks and this team is back in it. Am I wrong? Lets say the Jays play 12 games and go 10-2. That would have them one game under .500 still with games to play in May. Obviously I don't think that would happen, but if it did there back in it. That's my point. If I were betting, I wouldn't bet on the Jays to make it, but that doesn't mean the season is over, it just means its unlikely.

 

simplify tings... say that they have to gain 1 game in first every week for 10 weeks. that puts them at the top in just over 2 months. that is doable and still within reach. it doesnt sound daunting, but instead is a simply goal that is clearly possible,

[declan_44]

believe me i hope for nothing else but toronto to be .500 at the break, then we're in a real position to make a run. im sorry my posts are taken the wrong way sometimes, and it's partly my fault, but Toronto had a real shot with this roster and baltimore, NYY, Boston, are all so amazing. give credit where credit is due

 

Like to committed ownership groups...? I keep thinking one of these negging posters is high85

[Metallijay]

I didn't say that would happen, I was pointing out that a strong 2 weeks and this team is back in it. Am I wrong? Lets say the Jays play 12 games and go 10-2. That would have them one game under .500 still with games to play in May. Obviously I don't think that would happen, but if it did there back in it. That's my point. If I were betting, I wouldn't bet on the Jays to make it, but that doesn't mean the season is over, it just means its unlikely.

 

Exactly, amazing people thinks a team cannot go on a run, one good run over 15-20 games this team could be right in it. Will it happen? Doubt it, but it can happen, and the other teams I expect will drop some, the yanks are over achieving like the sox were.

[vdartanian]

...baltimore, NYY, Boston, are all so amazing. give credit where credit is due

 

What a twat you are!!!

[o2cui2i]

Jays have 16 games left this month. to get to .500 they need to win 12 of those 16 games.

 

that's not impossible. it's going to have to go on the hitting for many of those games. we only have 2 of our 5 starters ready to go, so the spot starters are going to have to give us good efforts.

 

12/16 would give the jays 22 wins in May.

 

if they can do that, it starts to get interesting in June... really interesting. the big thing is the Yanks, Rays and Os series. Jays need to win all 3 of those series and hopefully sweep one of the 3.

 

keep the dream alive a little longer!!!

[o2cui2i]

What a twat you are!!!

 

starting to sound like Taka is High85 isn't it....

[Chappy]

Jays have 16 games left this month. to get to .500 they need to win 12 of those 16 games.

 

that's not impossible. it's going to have to go on the hitting for many of those games. we only have 2 of our 5 starters ready to go, so the spot starters are going to have to give us good efforts.

 

12/16 would give the jays 22 wins in May.

 

if they can do that, it starts to get interesting in June... really interesting. the big thing is the Yanks, Rays and Os series. Jays need to win all 3 of those series and hopefully sweep one of the 3.

 

keep the dream alive a little longer!!!

 

If they do thats great, but I would be happy if they win 10 of the next 16. If they get to .500 by the end of June they will still be in good shape to make a second half run with reinforcements on the way in Reyes and Santos, and guys like Hutch, Drabek and Perez will be coming back from injury. Lets not forget Stroman who might be able to contribute as well. As for McGowan he is another possibility, but counting on him is like waiting to win the lottery, probably not going to happen.

 

Other players like Gose will have more seasoning as well and Sierra and Thole offer us some more depth.

 

If this team gets to .500 by then I don't see any reason why they cannot make a run assuming they are not still decimated by injuries.

[ElNik2013]

If they do thats great, but I would be happy if they win 10 of the next 16. If they get to .500 by the end of June they will still be in good shape to make a second half run with reinforcements on the way in Reyes and Santos, and guys like Hutch, Drabek and Perez will be coming back from injury. Lets not forget Stroman who might be able to contribute as well. As for McGowan he is another possibility, but counting on him is like waiting to win the lottery, probably not going to happen.

 

Other players like Gose will have more seasoning as well and Sierra and Thole offer us some more depth.

 

If this team gets to .500 by then I don't see any reason why they cannot make a run assuming they are not still decimated by injuries.

 

 

 

Agree with this. Win a few series in a row, especially against the Yankees, Rays and Orioles and then see where that gets them by June 1st. I just don't see this rotation being capable of allowing the team to get on a roll. If they get JJ back by the end of the month or June 1st, then that's great. If they get to .500 by mid June and then get Reyes back, I'll be ok with that.

 

Being a few games over .500 by end of July would put them a within a 5-8 game winning streak of being right at the top of the WC race, this is all I can ask for at this point given the awful start and the injuries to the rotation.

[o2cui2i]

If they do thats great, but I would be happy if they win 10 of the next 16. If they get to .500 by the end of June they will still be in good shape to make a second half run with reinforcements on the way in Reyes and Santos, and guys like Hutch, Drabek and Perez will be coming back from injury. Lets not forget Stroman who might be able to contribute as well. As for McGowan he is another possibility, but counting on him is like waiting to win the lottery, probably not going to happen.

 

Other players like Gose will have more seasoning as well and Sierra and Thole offer us some more depth.

 

If this team gets to .500 by then I don't see any reason why they cannot make a run assuming they are not still decimated by injuries.

 

I agree.... I'm just pointing out that it really isn't going to take that big of a miracle. it will be hard, but impossible is so far from reality. the entire team is warming up offensively(FINALLY) LATE june they will have Strohman and Reyes, july they get Hutch. Gose and Sierra can be called up and AA can trade away JJ to get what ever players will still need. it's not impossible, just unlikely if the players dont see what they are doing RIGHT now and keep doing it.

[theblujay]

I think we should take it series by series. Go into every series looking to win the series and if they can do that, they'll be catching up quickly.

 

Considering we've only won 2 series all year, this is a good place to start.

[Chappy]

I agree.... I'm just pointing out that it really isn't going to take that big of a miracle. it will be hard, but impossible is so far from reality. the entire team is warming up offensively(FINALLY) LATE june they will have Strohman and Reyes, july they get Hutch. Gose and Sierra can be called up and AA can trade away JJ to get what ever players will still need. it's not impossible, just unlikely if the players dont see what they are doing RIGHT now and keep doing it.

 

I agree. It isn't as impossible as it was when they were 11 games under .500 and playing ~.300 ball. They have won 6 of the last 9 and the offense is showing some good signs. It's important to just keep this trend going. Like I said in other threads, 3 of every 5 and they are going to inch their way back into this. Throw in a win streak and things could get exciting. The key right now for this team is to take baby steps and play every game like its a must win.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

We can't win this many games relying on 2-3 minor league starters. They're going to need to get creative.

 

I LOVE Cecil in his current role... but if worst comes to worst they might need to try him as a starter again.

[dineke]

Cecil has finally shown some consistency. I don't think you mess with that. Plus he still doesn't get RHB out so that rules out the option completely for me.

 

Who's the girl in your avatar?

[wilko]

We can't win this many games relying on 2-3 minor league starters. They're going to need to get creative.

 

I LOVE Cecil in his current role... but if worst comes to worst they might need to try him as a starter again.

 

Cecil was hitting 94 in the game yesterday.

[dineke]

C'mon Cecil still gets rocked by righties, please no.

[o2cui2i]

I agree. It isn't as impossible as it was when they were 11 games under .500 and playing ~.300 ball. They have won 6 of the last 9 and the offense is showing some good signs. It's important to just keep this trend going. Like I said in other threads, 3 of every 5 and they are going to inch their way back into this. Throw in a win streak and things could get exciting. The key right now for this team is to take baby steps and play every game like its a must win.

 

wish they had played with that attitude from April 1st....

[kgm1]

A lot of IF,s but certainly not unrealistic to get back to 500 sometime in june . Offense seems to have kicked it into gear and even with Jenkins and Ortiz in the rotation they can win when scoring 10 runs a game ..

 

I think a 9 and 6 run to finish all against teams that are over 500 would set this team up for a decent chance to get back in it .

As for trades , Getting Reyes , JJ and Happ back islike making 3 trades

[crrr]

I agree.... I'm just pointing out that it really isn't going to take that big of a miracle. it will be hard, but impossible is so far from reality. the entire team is warming up offensively(FINALLY) LATE june they will have Strohman and Reyes, july they get Hutch. Gose and Sierra can be called up and AA can trade away JJ to get what ever players will still need. it's not impossible, just unlikely if the players dont see what they are doing RIGHT now and keep doing it.

 

I think sportsnet said they would have to play equivalent to a 105 win team to get to 95 wins, seems unlikely to me

[Stangstag]

I LOVE Cecil in his current role... but if worst comes to worst they might need to try him as a starter again.

 

No, just no. Please god no.

[kgm1]

I think sportsnet said they would have to play equivalent to a 105 win team to get to 95 wins, seems unlikely to me

 

95 wins yes (unlikely ) but 88 to 90 wins in this division may be enough . If the jays get back into this you will have all 5 teams beating eachother up and I just don't see a 95 win team in the AL East.

[kgm1]

Cecil has found his role . Ortiz and Jenkins after their good starts will now get at least 2 more . By then just pray that JJ is healthy and back pitching decent . Right now we have 4 soft tossers in the rotation .

 

Thing is Dickey , Morrow and Buehrle have to step up and pitch well and the offense will have to continue to stay on fire .

[o2cui2i]

95 wins yes (unlikely ) but 88 to 90 wins in this division may be enough . If the jays get back into this you will have all 5 teams beating eachother up and I just don't see a 95 win team in the AL East.

 

I agree... second place in the AL east is not going anywhere but the golf course.

[dmrich28]

What would you think if they went 11-6 over the next stretch? Just a general question to the masses. Can we accept this as a good step? I figure it would get the team to maybe 4-6 games back. Do they have the starting pitching to even consider this right now?

[crrr]

95 wins yes (unlikely ) but 88 to 90 wins in this division may be enough . If the jays get back into this you will have all 5 teams beating eachother up and I just don't see a 95 win team in the AL East.

 

While it wouldn't be fair for me to dismiss completely your 88-90 win assertion, in the last 10 years 95 is the lowest any team has won the division with, so I don't think it's very reasonable to just drop that to 88-90.

 

88-90 is a better range for the wild card. To get to 90 wins, they would have to play as an equivalent 98 win team, which while it could happen, just isn't that likely.

 

The fact is the Jays April really hurt them, and we will need a pretty nice streak to make the post season.

[crrr]

95 wins yes (unlikely ) but 88 to 90 wins in this division may be enough . If the jays get back into this you will have all 5 teams beating eachother up and I just don't see a 95 win team in the AL East.

 

Actually, the history typically suggests your 88-90 win scenario wouldn't come second. 88-90 wins, and expecting to make the post season isn't really reasonable. Need to look to get into the 93+ range for the WC

[Abomination]

I agree... second place in the AL east is not going anywhere but the golf course.

 

As it stands right now, both wild cards would come from the AL East.