Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 you mean the JP Arencibia of catchers Nah, Alfaro's K rates have typically been much better than Arencibia's, plus Alfaro has a 70 arm whereas Arencibia's was like a 40. Alfaro can be a plus defensive catcher which will give him a chance to reach his offensive ceiling. But again, Alfaro is just a throw-in anyway.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I'll let you choose between Gattis and Trumbo. Straight up I actually considered trading Reyes to get back Gattis last night. That might work.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Straight up I actually considered trading Reyes to get back Gattis last night. That might work. Send my people the paperwork.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Basically i hate giving him up but i am basically selling out on the fact that i don't think what Lindor did last season was a fluke so it made it a little easier for me. Outfield has been a sore spot for me for the last few years so just hoping i can shore it up a bit this year and hopefully contend for a playoff spot this year. Few more deals to be made. Lindor is a beauty.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 Nah, Alfaro's K rates have typically been much better than Arencibia's, plus Alfaro has a 70 arm whereas Arencibia's was like a 40. Alfaro can be a plus defensive catcher which will give him a chance to reach his offensive ceiling. But again, Alfaro is just a throw-in anyway. Arencibia was generally considered to have an above average arm, he just had s*** mechanics. Remember he could chuck guys out from his knees, but his pop time was like 2.5. Alfaro's 27% CS rate in the minors is actually worse than JPA's and equal to JPA's MLB rate. Alfaro has bad mechanics and footwork, it seems.
Cyborg Verified Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I'll take M&M. I love Meadows.
SpeedyGose Verified Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Putting this on the DDL proboards as well but I'm looking to move prospects in exchange for OF/SP help. Everyone is available (Gallo unlikely because my demands havent lowered)
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 Alex Gordon is available!
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Arencibia was generally considered to have an above average arm, he just had s*** mechanics. Remember he could chuck guys out from his knees, but his pop time was like 2.5. Alfaro's 27% CS rate in the minors is actually worse than JPA's and equal to JPA's MLB rate. Alfaro has bad mechanics and footwork, it seems. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_68062.jpg8. Jorge Alfaro, C DOB: 06/11/1993 Height/Weight: 6’2” 225 lbs. Bats/Throws: R/R Drafted/Acquired: Signed January 2010 out of Colombia by the Texas Rangers for $1,300,000, traded to Philadelphia in the Cole Hamels deal Previous Ranking(s): 2015: #3 (Org), #31 (Overall) 2015 Stats: .258/.324/.438, 5 HR, 2 SB between the Gulf Coast League and Double-A Frisco Key Tools: 80 arm, 60 power, 50 run Role: 50—Average major-league regular in...right field? It's borderline apostasy at Baseball Prospectus to have #TheLegend this low on an organizational list, even one as deep as Philadelphia's. And I get the appeal, I really do. You just don't find major-league catchers with Alfaro's catalog of raw tools. And he's still only 22, and performed well enough in Double-A before suffering an ankle injury. That's not nothing. At a certain point, though, the improvements projected both at and behind the plate have to start manifesting in games, especially given the large gap between present and future when it comes to how we've written about Alfaro. You know the good by now. It's an elite arm behind the plate, though it can play down when he isn't mechanically right coming out of the crouch. The raw power is an easy 70, but the approach and swing issues will limit how much it plays in games. Alfaro might be a .230 hitter in the majors, which is fine for a catcher with some pop, but the skills behind the plate still play as well below average, and that was before his fairly severe ankle injury in 2015. His best defensive fit might be right field, where he has more than enough arm strength and athleticism to handle the position, though the bat is much less exciting there. This looks to be a bit of a make-or-break year for Alfaro, coming to a new organization and off a significant leg injury. Like Appel, it is possible he benefits from a change of scenery, but until the tools start to play more in games, some conservatism is warranted. Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: Catching prospects are a fickle breed in dynasty leagues, and yet we still gamble on the upside of having that elite option—a shark among a sea of plankton and pollution. Alfaro once held that upside, and as he’s gotten larger in the microscope, the warts have grown larger. There’s still plenty of value in a .260 hitting catcher with 20 homers (only one catcher did that in 2015, and it wasn’t who you think), we just all need to re-adjust our expectations. Major league ETA: 2017 Plus according to MLB.com he's currently the top catching prospect, FWIW.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I though Gallo suxxxxxxx before it was cool.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 BP put him 8th in the Phillies system? lowl
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 BP put him 8th in the Phillies system? lowl I'd put him no lower than 4th in their system, personally. Crawford and Williams are ahead of him for sure, the rest... questionable.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I'd put him no lower than 4th in their system, personally. Crawford and Williams are ahead of him for sure, the rest... questionable. Your first problem is subscribing to BP
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I though Gallo suxxxxxxx before it was cool. I'll be interested to see where Gallo goes in the BORED draft. I remember Nox telling me he had a deal lined up in his ottoneu league where he got Chris Sale for his Joey Gallo. I urged him to do it to no avail. No wonder he's never won that league!
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Your first problem is subscribing to BP I disagree, they put out lots of interesting content and the subscription is cheap.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 I'd put him no lower than 4th in their system, personally. Crawford and Williams are ahead of him for sure, the rest... questionable. Yes, it's a surprisingly weak list in the 3-10 range, for a rebuilding team. Even Williams still has warts. BA has Knapp above him, which is interesting. Top 10 Prospects ($) 1. J.P. Crawford, ss 2. Nick Williams, of 3. Jake Thompson, rhp 4. Andrew Knapp, c 5. Jorge Alfaro, c 6. Cornelius Randolph, of 7. Franklyn Kilome, rhp 8. Roman Quinn, of 9. Adonis Medina, rhp 10. Carlos Tocci, of
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Yeah, BP is easily worth the subscription.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Man, Knapp's half season at AA is so weird. 55 games where he put up a .271 ISO and a 200 wRC+ after never showing better than average power before. He is admittedly more likely to stick at catcher than Alfaro but I think long-term his power isn't as tantalizing. Knapp could have Cervellian upside, which is considerable. Or maybe he just mashed AA as an over-ager. I really don't know much about him. Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: There’s just not enough potential here to invest heavily in Knapp, despite the gaudy stats in Double-A. In fact, if someone in your league likes a good stat page, you should float Knapp to him/her. The proximity and power is enough to make him someone who should be owned in leagues that roster 200 prospects, but don’t get carried away—there’s nothing wrong with .250 and 15 homers, but most of those stats are available on the wire in mixed one-catcher formats.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 Man, Knapp's half season at AA is so weird. 55 games where he put up a .271 ISO and a 200 wRC+ after never showing better than average power before. He is admittedly more likely to stick at catcher than Alfaro but I think long-term his power isn't as tantalizing. Knapp could have Cervellian upside, which is considerable. Or maybe he just mashed AA as an over-ager. I really don't know much about him. Bret Sayre’s Fantasy Take: There’s just not enough potential here to invest heavily in Knapp, despite the gaudy stats in Double-A. In fact, if someone in your league likes a good stat page, you should float Knapp to him/her. The proximity and power is enough to make him someone who should be owned in leagues that roster 200 prospects, but don’t get carried away—there’s nothing wrong with .250 and 15 homers, but most of those stats are available on the wire in mixed one-catcher formats. Had TJS in 2013 right after getting drafted (October), so everything before 2015 was probably affected by that in some way. He's a guy that was only a part-time catcher in college. So, he's been learning the position while also recovering from TJS. A lot going on underneath the BR page for Knappy. He's a lot different than Cervelli. More of a 50 hit, 50+ power catcher. Maybe Derek Norris... switch hitter though, which is cool beans.
TRM Verified Member Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 TORONTO, Jan 13, 2016, 18:02 ET After a meeting with the league brass and an internal review, A 2nd Leg to Stanton has elected to cut ties with recently appointed co-manager King. TRM will retain all control of the franchises operations on a day-to-day and ongoing basis. The franchise thanks King for his contributions, and will always remember his legacy of being sort of involved in acquiring new SS Jung-Ho Kang. The position will not be filled moving forward, but rather eliminated. TRM would also like to extend his total support of the London Slayers franchise, and Manager silvergun. TRM is thrilled that he has elected to return, and looks forward to taking his title from him this year. At the same press-conference, TRM revealed plans to rebrand the Franchise after three years, in lieu of last years trade of star player and namesake Giancarlo "don't call me Michael" Stanton. More details to follow as cut-down day approaches, which promises to be active as TRM indicated they are proactively looking to shop spare parts that could be extremely valuable to other franchises.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 addition by subtraction if there ever was such a thing
TheHurl Site Manager Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 TORONTO, Jan 13, 2016, 18:02 ET After a meeting with the league brass and an internal review, A 2nd Leg to Stanton has elected to cut ties with recently appointed co-manager King. TRM will retain all control of the franchises operations on a day-to-day and ongoing basis. The franchise thanks King for his contributions, and will always remember his legacy of being sort of involved in acquiring new SS Jung-Ho Kang. The position will not be filled moving forward, but rather eliminated. TRM would also like to extend his total support of the London Slayers franchise, and Manager silvergun. TRM is thrilled that he has elected to return, and looks forward to taking his title from him this year. At the same press-conference, TRM revealed plans to rebrand the Franchise after three years, in lieu of last years trade of star player and namesake Giancarlo "don't call me Michael" Stanton. More details to follow as cut-down day approaches, which promises to be active as TRM indicated they are proactively looking to shop spare parts that could be extremely valuable to other franchises. You aren't the first to use a 15 year old for a little Jung Ho and then dump them
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 14, 2016 Author Posted January 14, 2016 Throwing together some steamer600 Z-Scores and I have Shelby Miller as SP #156, one slot behind Rubby De La Rosa. Go D-Backs!
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Bret Sayre kind of seems like a fantasy dumbass. Just me? Almost everything I read from him makes me cringe.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 14, 2016 Author Posted January 14, 2016 Bret Sayre kind of seems like a fantasy dumbass. Just me? Almost everything I read from him makes me cringe. I don't really see the utility of any of his snippets, but if you read a bunch of them he's generally right, even if it's all common sense / obvious. I don't read any fantasy stuff on BP though so I only ever see his name when there is a fantasy spin on scouting reports.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 I'm looking to trade Jose Reyes for an OF (or prospect) by the end of the weekend, so hit me up if you are in on him.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 These are all my potential cuts, gonna end up keeping one of them though I think. Whould move any of these guys for any kind of pick or pick upgrade. Pitchers... Matt Boyd Mike Foltynewicz Matt Moore Drew Pomeranz Álex Colomé TJ House Kendall Graveman Danny Hultzen Bats... Joe Mauer Austin Barnes C.J. Cron Elvis Andrus Ike Davis Get Your Hot Garbage Now!
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 6 teams currently in on Reyes
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 These are all my potential cuts, gonna end up keeping one of them though I think. Whould move any of these guys for any kind of pick or pick upgrade. Pitchers... Matt Boyd Mike Foltynewicz Matt Moore Drew Pomeranz Álex Colomé TJ House Kendall Graveman Danny Hultzen Bats... Joe Mauer Austin Barnes C.J. Cron Elvis Andrus Ike Davis Get Your Hot Garbage Now! Wow, Pomeranz really bounced around in 2015.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 6 teams currently in on Reyes I was looking at his stats on Fangraphs. He's been very similar to Andrus over the past 2 years.
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