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Reaves' a goon.

 

f*** - Graves smoked the Vegas player high way after the puck was gone. If the NHL doesn't want Reaves or other players 'policing the game themselves' then throw Graves out of the game after he does ******** like that.

 

I think Graves got lucky that Reaves didn't beat the piss out of him.

 

I also think all that stuff is unnecessary, but the NHL doesn't seem to think so, so this is going to happen. It's interesting that Reaves gets a match penalty for twisting up Graves (looks pretty innocent, but he got hurt on it) - but if he broke his eye socket while fist f***ing him - it would have just been applauded and cheered without consequence.

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f*** - Graves smoked the Vegas player high way after the puck was gone. If the NHL doesn't want Reaves or other players 'policing the game themselves' then throw Graves out of the game after he does ******** like that.

 

I think Graves got lucky that Reaves didn't beat the piss out of him.

 

I also think all that stuff is unnecessary, but the NHL doesn't seem to think so, so this is going to happen. It's interesting that Reaves gets a match penalty for twisting up Graves (looks pretty innocent, but he got hurt on it) - but if he broke his eye socket while fist f***ing him - it would have just been applauded and cheered without consequence.

 

That hit was fine, holy f***.

 

Reaves' a goon. 2 games says as much.

Posted
That hit was fine, holy f***.

 

Reaves' a goon. 2 games says as much.

 

I disagree on the hit and the penalty issued says as much.

 

If the league doesn't suspend players for those types of hits, then expect to continue seeing goons like Reaves f*** you up after that. Isn't this what hockey people want? They want the players to police the game? Or did this break some unwritten code that suggests you can't attach/maul someone after a whistle, but you can bust their face in with your fists. People are mauled after whistled all the time (and way too much in the playoffs). If Graves doesn't fall, or doesn't get hurt there, there's no suspension.

 

Of course Reaves is a goon. Hockey loves goons - the rules and culture are designed to have goons.

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Hey Spanky - what do you think of that hit on Evans (who may have to drink out of a straw for the rest of his life)?

 

I'd say it was cleaner than Graves' hit - but Scheifele probably gets suspended because Evans is injured (which I think he rightfully deserves)

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Scheifele destroyed Evans

 

Posted
Hey Spanky - what do you think of that hit on Evans (who may have to drink out of a straw for the rest of his life)?

 

I'd say it was cleaner than Graves' hit - but Scheifele probably gets suspended because Evans is injured (which I think he rightfully deserves)

 

That's a predatory hit, he had every chance to get back and try to prevent the goal, but literally didn't even have his stick on the ice because he was loading up to take Evans head off.

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That's a predatory hit, he had every chance to get back and try to prevent the goal, but literally didn't even have his stick on the ice because he was loading up to take Evans head off.

 

I noticed this too. If he made a play on the puck he might have prevented the goal. Idiot.

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The Leafs have settled on an offseason plan: they will be adding "killer instinct".

 

Posted
The Leafs have settled on an offseason plan: they will be adding "killer instinct".

 

 

They could trade for Scheifele

Posted
The Leafs have settled on an offseason plan: they will be adding "killer instinct".

 

 

Why'd you post this, 2nd reply... Ughhh???

 

Posted
Hey Spanky - what do you think of that hit on Evans (who may have to drink out of a straw for the rest of his life)?

 

I'd say it was cleaner than Graves' hit - but Scheifele probably gets suspended because Evans is injured (which I think he rightfully deserves)

 

Dude, that hit was dirty as f***, not even close to a semblance of the Graves hit, really?

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That's a predatory hit, he had every chance to get back and try to prevent the goal, but literally didn't even have his stick on the ice because he was loading up to take Evans head off.

 

That's what I saw... how many steps was that ffs's. *smh*

 

Holy, he went like a 150 ft full speed. Cause he has no priors, 2 games?

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That's what I saw... how many steps was that ffs's. *smh*

 

Holy, he went like a 150 ft full speed. Cause he has no priors, 2 games?

 

Seeing with some of the incidents DoPS has let happen I feel he will definitely play again this series.

Posted
Seeing with some of the incidents DoPS has let happen I feel he will definitely play again this series.

 

Yeah, we'll see him again.

Posted
That's what I saw... how many steps was that ffs's. *smh*

 

Holy, he went like a 150 ft full speed. Cause he has no priors, 2 games?

 

Two games, and then having to return to the series as a marked man, probably a fitting punishment.

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How bad will it be if the f***ing Habs are a final four team, et the second best team in hockey has to play the best team in the second round.
Posted
That's what I saw... how many steps was that ffs's. *smh*

 

Holy, he went like a 150 ft full speed. Cause he has no priors, 2 games?

 

What's the rule on charging? I thought it was you don't stop skating? I mean he was going full speed, but did stop striding a far distance from Evans. Is there a speed limit when body checking?

 

IMO, it was probably a clean hit as per the rules of hockey. He stopped striding, he didn't jump, he lead with the shoulder to the chest, it wasn't a blindside hit and Evans had just released the puck (it was miles earlier than the Graves hit). I don't follow hockey to know if they've added in a rule that you can't crush someone in a vulnerable position (like the NFL has).

 

It was a completely unnecessary and very viscous hit - but I'm not even sure it should have been a penalty based on the current rules of hockey (and that's a major issue).

 

Fire up the goons though as it will be time for the players to police the game themselves as soon as he returns from suspension.

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How bad will it be if the f***ing Habs are a final four team, et the second best team in hockey has to play the best team in the second round.

 

Same goes for the Panthers, and Canes facing the Lightning, their all in geographical bubbles until the Semi's ... than a new bubble arises, lol. Covid man, suxxxx

Posted
What's the rule on charging? I thought it was you don't stop skating? I mean he was going full speed, but did stop striding a far distance from Evans. Is there a speed limit when body checking?

 

IMO, it was probably a clean hit as per the rules of hockey. He stopped striding, he didn't jump, he lead with the shoulder to the chest, it wasn't a blindside hit and Evans had just released the puck (it was miles earlier than the Graves hit). I don't follow hockey to know if they've added in a rule that you can't crush someone in a vulnerable position (like the NFL has).

 

It was a completely unnecessary and very viscous hit - but I'm not even sure it should have been a penalty based on the current rules of hockey (and that's a major issue).

 

Fire up the goons though as it will be time for the players to police the game themselves as soon as he returns from suspension.

 

Dude he took 14 full strides from the Habs hashmarks to the Jets hashmarks, lets just agree to disagree. Seems to me the officiating got this right in both cases. Lets see what the league does. lol... Habs have no goons.

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Posted
What's the rule on charging? I thought it was you don't stop skating? I mean he was going full speed, but did stop striding a far distance from Evans. Is there a speed limit when body checking?

 

IMO, it was probably a clean hit as per the rules of hockey. He stopped striding, he didn't jump, he lead with the shoulder to the chest, it wasn't a blindside hit and Evans had just released the puck (it was miles earlier than the Graves hit). I don't follow hockey to know if they've added in a rule that you can't crush someone in a vulnerable position (like the NFL has).

 

It was a completely unnecessary and very viscous hit - but I'm not even sure it should have been a penalty based on the current rules of hockey (and that's a major issue).

 

Fire up the goons though as it will be time for the players to police the game themselves as soon as he returns from suspension.

 

"Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of

distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A

“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal

frame or in open ice."

 

The "don't stop skating thing" is not true. It's basically 2 (or 5) minutes for hitting too hard. You're not allowed to skate end to end and pick up as much speed as possible to destroy someone. It's one of the worst rules in hockey as far as it is written and enforced.

 

Anyway, Scheifele definitely was guilty of it here.

 

 

And you could argue that the principal point of contact was in fact Evans' f***ing face:

 

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What's the rule on charging? I thought it was you don't stop skating? I mean he was going full speed, but did stop striding a far distance from Evans. Is there a speed limit when body checking?

 

IMO, it was probably a clean hit as per the rules of hockey. He stopped striding, he didn't jump, he lead with the shoulder to the chest, it wasn't a blindside hit and Evans had just released the puck (it was miles earlier than the Graves hit). I don't follow hockey to know if they've added in a rule that you can't crush someone in a vulnerable position (like the NFL has).

 

It was a completely unnecessary and very viscous hit - but I'm not even sure it should have been a penalty based on the current rules of hockey (and that's a major issue).

 

Fire up the goons though as it will be time for the players to police the game themselves as soon as he returns from suspension.

 

Lol he started winding up at the other goal crease. If this isn't charging, I don't know what is

 

Ah, Laika already posted this. Great minds

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"Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of

distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A

“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal

frame or in open ice."

 

The "don't stop skating thing" is not true. It's basically 2 (or 5) minutes for hitting too hard. You're not allowed to skate end to end and pick up as much speed as possible to destroy someone. It's one of the worst rules in hockey as far as it is written and enforced.

 

Anyway, Scheifele definitely was guilty of it here.

 

 

And you could argue that the principal point of contact was in fact Evans' f***ing face:

 

 

How can someone look at that hit and think it was fine? Dirty as f***. The panel last night agreed on their just might be a precedent set on his suspension, well, save for Bieksa.

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Lol he started winding up at the other goal crease. If this isn't charging, I don't know what is

 

Ah, Laika already posted this. Great minds

 

lol

Community Moderator
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Good lord - that is a horribly written rule. The NHL is such a joke.

 

This is the more complete text:

 

"A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player

who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.

Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of

distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A

“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal

frame or in open ice."

 

I would probably reword it to something like this:

 

Charging shall mean:

- leaving your feet and jumping into a player at the point of contact

- travelling an unnecessary distance to apply a violent hit to a player

- gathering an excessive and unnecessary amount of speed in order to violently hit a player

- in all instances a key consideration is whether or not the player making the hit's primary motivation is to make a violent hit. If the hitting player makes a valid play on the puck while making a hit, or only applies enough force in the hit to separate the defender from the puck, then it it is less likely to be charging.

Old-Timey Member
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I have no idea what Scheifele was thinking there. He's not typically a dirty player or even someone who throws the body. I'd like to say it just happened quickly and it was a mistake but he had his head up the whole way and had every intention of throwing a hit there.

 

Again.. Not sure what he was thinking. Brutal play.

Posted
I have no idea what Scheifele was thinking there. He's not typically a dirty player or even someone who throws the body. I'd like to say it just happened quickly and it was a mistake but he had his head up the whole way and had every intention of throwing a hit there.

 

Again.. Not sure what he was thinking. Brutal play.

 

He was pretty heated during the game, in scrums he was getting mauled and glove washed, he was pissed and made a huge last second brain cramp, that was nasty.

Old-Timey Member
Posted

Holy s*** this is bad. You think it's bad and then it just gets worse.

 

A former high school hockey player is alleging that the Blackhawks old video coach provided alcohol/gave oral sex to him without consent when he was 16.

 

The same video coach was accused by a 2010 Blackhawks player of masturbating/watching porn in front of him and sending him inappropriate messages, which the team said was the PLAYERS fault and tried to sweep under the rug.

 

Said video coach was convicted in 2013 of a completely different crime which involved a underage student in Michigan.

 

What the actual f***?

 

https://www.tsn.ca/lawsuit-alleges-blackhawks-gave-sexual-abuser-positive-reference-letter-1.1648243

 

A former high school hockey player who alleges he was sexually abused by a former Chicago Blackhawks coach is suing the National Hockey League franchise for allegedly providing a positive employment reference to the coach despite knowing he was a sexual predator.

 

The plaintiff, who is referred to as “John Doe (2)” in court documents, alleges that former Blackhawks video coach Brad Aldrich, who no longer works for the franchise, sexually assaulted him on March 6, 2013, when Aldrich was an assistant coach on a high school team in Houghton, Mich., and the plaintiff was a 16-year-old player.

 

“At an end of season gathering for the players, Aldrich provided alcohol to the then minor plaintiff and performed oral sex on the plaintiff without his consent,” the six-page lawsuit says.

 

The lawsuit was filed on May 26 in Cook Circuit Court in Chicago. The plaintiff is seeking damages in excess of $50,000. Blackhawks spokesman Adam Rogowin declined to comment.

 

"As this is a pending litigation matter, it would be inappropriate for us to comment," he wrote in an email to TSN.

 

The lawsuit was filed weeks after an unnamed member of the 2010 Stanley Cup-winning Blackhawks team sued the franchise over Aldrich’s alleged behaviour. In that case, the plaintiff, referred to as “John Doe,” alleged Aldrich was watching pornography and began to masturbate in front of the player without his consent in May 2010.

 

The former Blackhawks player also alleged that Aldrich also sent him “inappropriate text messages” and threatened him “physically, financially and emotionally” if he “did not engage in sexual activity.”

 

According to the former NHL player’s claim, the then-Blackhawks player reported Aldrich's alleged misconduct in May 2010 to James F. Gary, the team’s mental skills coach. Gary allegedly convinced the former player that the sexual assault was his fault and had permitted the assault to occur.

 

Referring to the former NHL player's lawsuit, the former high school player alleges that the Blackhawks failed to properly respond to the allegation of sexual assault by Aldrich and failed to investigate, adjudicate and terminate his employment.

 

Instead, the former high school player’s suit alleges the NHL team “Provided positive references to future employers for Bradley Aldrich as a hockey coach despite having knowledge of his sexual assaults and failed to report Bradley Aldrich to any hockey or coaching organizations of oversight.”

 

The former high school player’s lawyer, Susan Loggans, wrote in court documents that the Blackhawks acted “with utter indifference or conscious disregard for the safety of others, including plaintiff.”

 

According to Chicago radio station WBEZ, Aldrich is now 38 and was convicted in 2013 of an unrelated fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct involving a student in Michigan. It’s unclear whether that student is “John Doe (2).” Aldrich is a registered sex offender in Michigan, WBEZ reported.

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