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sucks, I really feel like the Jets have out played the Knights the last few games. Just timely scoring by Vegas and a hot goalie.
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The Golden Knights are going to win the Cup, and the NHL is pathetic.

 

This guy buys season pack tickets for the Senators and is butt hurt, they suck ass. lol:rolleyes:

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This guy buys season pack tickets for the Senators and is butt hurt, they suck ass. lol:rolleyes:

 

So you're proud that your favourite league is going to be won by a team constructed from everyone else's spare parts? Does that not indicate to you that the league is bland and homogenous?

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So you're proud that your favourite league is going to be won by a team constructed from everyone else's spare parts? Does that not indicate to you that the league is bland and homogenous?

 

No they drafted and traded well, there were plenty of good players they picked up, and have an elite goalie. They're a pretty damn good team. The NHL is at fault by tying rebuilding and weaker teams hands to leaving good players exposed. Also the league's overall talent is better than it's ever been, guys are bigger/stronger/faster with plenty of talent. You wouldn't know this as you don't even watch the sport. It's not my favourite league, the MLB is, I enjoy most sports, bruh!

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This guy buys season pack tickets for the Senators and is butt hurt, they suck ass. lol:rolleyes:

 

It's objectively embarrassing that an expansion team is this good. It cheapens success.

 

If an expansion team in baseball won 100 games their first year then steamrolled everyone in the playoffs, I'd probably just stop watching. But that wouldn't happen, because despite its faults, MLB is not a mickey mouse league.

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It's objectively embarrassing that an expansion team is this good. It cheapens success.

 

If an expansion team in baseball won 100 games their first year then steamrolled everyone in the playoffs, I'd probably just stop watching. But that wouldn't happen, because despite its faults, MLB is not a mickey mouse league.

 

I 100% agree, that the MLB wouldn't allow this, however the NHL messed it up. I was viewing your post as condescending toward the Knights, they're a very good team and surely doesn't cheapen a Cup win if they pull it off.

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I feel like 90% of NHL players are just interchangeable 3rd liners.

 

They are. Stars are rare (2nd liners). Superstars are very rare 1st liners)

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I'm having a hard time understanding how much of this success is just the NHL having a pretty flat level of talent. It's hard to see an expansion team assembling an analytics infrastructure that's immediately the class of the league. Other teams have relied on possession numbers to construct their teams and not enjoyed this much success.

 

The NHL gave every advantage they could to the Vegas franchise for expansion hoping to make them instantly successful. Maybe not cup Champs successful, but they've hugely benefitted from the incredibly liberal rules around expansion this time around.

 

I have no doubt this was done intentionally to make expansion look very favourable to other cities given the massive expansion fees any new tam pays, plus they wanted to make sure their new franchise doesn't struggle like every other one in the past that just ends being a drain on the league with constant money problems in 5 years.

 

They also lucked into one of the best head coaches in the game in Gallant after Florida went full retard

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I feel like 90% of NHL players are just interchangeable 3rd liners.

 

Seems to be the case. Give almost anyone O-zone starts and PP time and they’ll put up 50 points.

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I feel like 90% of NHL players are just interchangeable 3rd liners.

 

They are. Stars are rare (2nd liners). Superstars are very rare 1st liners)

 

Because all talent is better, evolved.

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The game is too fast to allow a big skills gap like there was in the 80s and 90s.

 

What does it matter if you have better hands than the next guy if the other team is rolling 4 lines who all skate and take 30 second shifts with the sole purpose to dispossess you and dump it in your zone? You can't make any east-west moves or you'll get decapitated. You can only skate north-south and dump it.

 

I don't really see the purpose of such a big roster size. The NHL should eliminate 2 gameday roster spots so you can only roll 3 lines and a utility guy. Then the game slows down a bit and everyone is playing for offence because puck possession is more important when shifts are elongated. Then there is a bigger skills gap.

 

The ice time for star players goes down every year. Even in the early 2000s, star forwards would play like 25 minutes. What's wrong with that? I can turn on any basketball game and see Lebron play the whole game.

 

f*** is the point of a 4th line?

 

Toronto's 4th line was effective. They had to let go Soshnikov for f*** sakes. They're all better, we had Leivo on the bench.

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Because all talent is better, evolved.

 

I the game is completely different now. Skill on every line is must. Top 6 and bottom 6 Brian burke nonsense is over

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I the game is completely different now. Skill on every line is must. Top 6 and bottom 6 Brian burke nonsense is over

 

That's what I'm saying. Game's talent has evolved large in talent. Guy gets 50 points was an 80 point guy years back and so on.

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That's what I'm saying. Game's talent has evolved large in talent. Guy gets 50 points was an 80 point guy years back and so on.

 

Yup. But the truly elite are still very rare...Tons of 40-60 point guys.

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lol at the nhl

 

is it not somewhat a win for analytics too though. First time an analytical team has been given a chance to build 100% from scratch. And it shows how far the rest of the NHL is behind in this area

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is it not somewhat a win for analytics too though. First time an analytical team has been given a chance to build 100% from scratch. And it shows how far the rest of the NHL is behind in this area

 

I wouldn't consider Vegas analytically catalysts. A team looking at analytics wouldn't acquire and play a fighting plug like Ryan Reaves.

 

The difference in this series was goaltending, Fleury was unbelievable.

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Aren't the Panthers an analytics team? And they gave up Marchessault as payment to take Reilly Smith in the expansion draft.

 

The two then combined for 135 points lol.

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