Eat My Shatkins

I'm ok with one of Espinal or Biggio as a starter next season, but I don't think both is a good idea at all.

This is why I keep suggesting something like Grichuk and Smith for Donaldson. The Twins save money on this deal (just about $20 million total) and get a prospect who's pretty much ready to try his craft at the MLB level and replace JD at 3B, we fill a hole at 3B and get a more productive player for our money without having to make a long term commitment. Then go hard after a LHB that can play some OF, DH and maybe even fillin at 1B. Plan A - Schwarber Plan ? - Dickerson

Honestly, boo-hoo for the Dodgers. The Jays won 91 games while playing more games than anyone in MLB against above .500 teams (91 total) in the hardest division in MLB, only finished 4th in the division and don't get to play a single playoff game. They would kill for the chance to play the Cards in a one game show down right now, and then face the Giants if they won that. BTW the Dodgers only played 62 games against above .500 teams. The Jays also had the 5th best run differential in MLB despite that gauntlet of a schedule.

I still think JD is a good target as long as he and the FO can bury the hatchet. He can come here, fill a huge hole but he doesn't have to be THE guy this time around, which is good because he's 36 now. Plus he only has two seasons left so it's not a long term commitment. Send them Grichuk and Smith. Grichuk has two years left at $10,333,333 and JD has two years left at $21,000,000 (plus a team option). Then as I've said plenty, try to sign Schwarber as the 4th OF, DH and once in a while 1B. 1. CF Springer 2. 1B Vladdy 3. 3B Donaldson 4. SS Bichette 5. DH Schwarber 6. RF Hernandez 7. LF Gurriel 8. C Jansen / Kirk 9. 2B Biggio That line up would murder pitchers.

Ray for me, easily. Jays have a strong nucleus of young core position players under control and more on the way in likely the next 1-2 seasons with Moreno, Groshans and Martinez. If you lose Semien it'll be a blow, but the offense will still continue to produce for years to come. As for starting pitching... 1. Ryu, old and just 2 years left 2. Berrios, hopefully extended but just 1 year left as of now 3. Stripling, 1 year left of control and more of a swing man and spot starter 4. Pearson, struggling with injuries and finding consistency So, the only proven starter they have under control for a while is Manoah and they don't have anything in the pipeline that you can count on being a factor. Really hoping they can get Ray and Matz extended this off season, providing they believe those guys will have continued success under Walker.

Angel Hernandez next please

Honestly wouldn't shock me to see the Jays try to do just this. Instead of bringing back Ray and Semien for huge money and term, they maybe go out and try to find the next Ray and Semien and sign them to 1 year show me deals. Story and Syndergaard for example.

Is there a reason I can't think of why Scherzer and the Dodgers won't just stay married to each other? Have to think Bauer is toast, and Kershaw is a free agent too.

The Blue Jays played more games against teams above .500 than anyone else in the league. 1 more than the Yankees did, and 2 more than the Rays did.

Here is what the Jays are looking at right now without any off-season moves made yet: C - Jansen 1B - Vladdy 2B - Biggio 3B - Espinal SS - Bo LF - Gurriel CF - Springer RF - Teo DH - Bench OF - Grichuk Bench IF - Bench UT - Valera Bench C - Kirk Depth position players on the 40 man: Mcguire, Smith, Moreno, Lopez, Palacios SP - Berrios SP - Ryu SP - Manoah SP - Stripling SP - Pearson CL - Romano SU - Cimber RP - Merryweather RP - Mayza RP - Richards RP - RP - RP - Depth pitchers on the 40 man: Hatch, Castro, Kay, Thornton, Snead, Borucki, Saucedo, Baker It's actually a pretty decent team just like that to be honest, and there are several different ways the FO can go to try and improve on it. Biggest places to make improvements: Position players/bench: 2B (Biggio), 3B (Espinal) and 4th OF (Grichuk) Starting pitching: Stripling, Pearson Relief pitching: Probably need to sign 2 or 3 high quality arms with a history of durability. They also don't have a full time DH, but if they can upgrade the 4th OFer spot they can keep rotating players through the DH role to give position players a day off in the field while keeping their bat in the line up. This is why landing Brantley would have been so nice last off season. Maybe they can snag Schwarber this off season to take that type of role.

Manager, bullpen and not playing at Rogers for half the home games turned this 99 win team into a 91 win team

I don't think the FO will f*** around this off season. They'll get done what needs to get done, and this team will have a realistic shot at 100 wins next season.

Grichuk and Smith for Donaldson Sign Schwarber Re-sign Ray & Matz Sign 2 high quality relievers C - Kirk / Jansen 1B - Vladdy 2B - Biggio 3B - Donaldson SS - Bo LF - Gurriel CF - Springer RF - Teo DH - Schwarber C - Jansen / Kirk IF - Espinal UT - Valera OF - Somebody fast who can play CF (Bring Dyson back?) SP - Ray SP - Berrios SP - Ryu SP - Manoah SP - Matz Long man 1 - Stripling Long man 2 - Pearson Closer - Romano Setup - Free agent (Givens?) Setup - Free agent (Neris?) RP - Merryweather RP - Cimber RP - Mayza RP - Richards Depth relief - Borucki Depth relief - Saucedo Depth relief - Castro Depth relief - Baker Depth relief - Snead

They already extended Montoyo and then the team won 91 games. He isn't getting canned.

Very good left handed bat, he can play OF, DH and fill in at 1B too.

Bring back Ray and Matz Sign 2-3 quality relievers Sign Schwarber Find a way to get rid of Grichuk Biggio back to 2B Espinal and Smith battle for 3B

91 wins and a +183 run differential and we finish FOURTH in our f***ING division. f*** the AL East

And that one person is a f***ing Jay too. So like I said, hopefully next season the JAYS take care of their s*** better so we don't have to watch this f***ing brutal s*** happen again.

You know what I mean for f*** sakes. They were +180 run differential for crying out loud. If they would have taken care of their s*** sooner we wouldn't be sitting here watching all our rivals bend us over. Too little too late.

Maybe next year the Jays will take take of their own s*** so we don't have to rely on other f***ing teams to clinch us a playoff spot. Of course the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays all find a way to brutally and painfully push our s*** in at virtually the same f***ing moment time.

No way the Nationals are winning this game We're good and f***ed now

Soto the hottest hitter in baseball until the Jays could use some help. Then he's a useless piece of s***

f***ing yes!!

Yes to Schwarber please.

Nobody asked if these teams were all great. The question was as a group is the division the greatest of all time? With four 90+ win teams with a collective +500-ish run differential, I would have to say they right up there without a doubt.