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  1. We were able to get Ryu, Springer and Semien in back to back offseasons. As long as we're willing to spend, they will come and you also save prospect capital to truly go after missing pieces. I just hate that we're handicapped so far out from the Division race and are chasing 1 wild card spot with the Yankees right there too. This trade made sense for someone under more control or at least someone that comes with an extension.
  2. Won't even argue that. Freaking out on a message board allows me to be sane in person. Should have seen me after we drafted Barnes over Suggs yesterday lol.
  3. I would have 100% traded Semien and Ray and then gone all in the offseason. Then we could have used those assets to fill in the pieces we couldn't get from free agency. We also wouldn't have been handicapped 10 games in the Division and chasing only 1 wild card spot with the Yankees right there too.
  4. Exactly. See, we can agree on things lol.
  5. I just loved Martin man. Seeing his name in the trade broke me lol.
  6. I just expected big things from Martin man. I was so stoked about the draft pick just for him to get traded a few months into his MiLB career. We are not in a must win season as this is supposed to be just the beginning of our winning curve. We are in a different position than most other teams. Instead we made a trade for a guy who can leave in 1.5 years and this could border on being a disasterous trade if there's a CBA lockout next year.
  7. The cost would have been Martin and Simeon Woods Richardson lol.
  8. Sure, might as well give them Kirk, Groshans, Martinez and Pearson. Then I'd love to see people here rationalize the trade.
  9. That's a very Homer way of looking at things tbh. SWR was the key piece to get a good young arm in Stroman and Martin still only dropped a couple of draft spots to 5th. We clearly were so excited to get him and if what you think is true, we shouldn't have drafted him 5th in the first place.
  10. Did the Dodgers pay the same or less to get Trea Turner and Scherzer? The Padres added a bunch of arms to their rotation without ever giving up 2 top prospects. With no extension, this trade is a joke.
  11. By affording him, I mean wanting to pay the big bucks that it will take to keep him. Trading for him just to give him a massive extension while giving up 2 top prospects seems dumb. If we don't get him under a reasonable deal past 2022, this trade will be a massive failure.
  12. I just wanted more control of Berrios so I could stomach this easier. Do you think we're even going to be able to afford him after next year? That's the part that pisses me off thinking we are going to be left with nothing or have an expensive pitcher on our books.
  13. I'm still trying to come with grips on the Barnes pick and then we get rid of 2 of our best prospects for a guy who could leave after next year. Looks like Shatkins got pinned into a corner with no other moves available after talking a big game and got bent over.
  14. You also have no f***ing idea what the rest thought either. Most of us are going by what the major media outlets are projecting and their perceived value. Everyone thinks we overpaid so just accept that. No need to get defensive about Shatkins getting hosed.
  15. Practically everyone on our 2015/2016 roster hated Shatkins because they wanted to breakup the team. There was a reason why they cleaned house completely. They didn't want any of the older regime players effecting the new regime players.
  16. But it seems the rest of the Major League seems to think they are. There's no problem in trading them but you better get more than 1.5 years of Berrios...
  17. The league clearly values Martin as everyone is saying we paid too high of a price. Look at what the Padres and Dodgers have been giving up in their trades. That's how you get things done. We wasted half a season with no bullpen and a whatever rotation. Just a panic trade by Shatkins when there was no reason to.
  18. Why the hell do we even need to get into a bidding war to 1.5 years of Berrios? There needs to be an extension involved or we just got raped. Imagine if there's a work stoppage...
  19. Look at our overall payroll, we're like 50 million less than our usual competing years. We gave up 2 amazing prospects for 1.5 years of Berrios and then what do you expect his contract to be? Just a joke of a trade.
  20. This is absolutely a JOKE of a trade. Instead of going hard after free agents, we decide to give up 2 amazing prospects. f*** Shatkins if the return is 1.5 years of Berrios. The Padres traded for so many friggin pitchers without giving up a return like what we just did.
  21. If we trade for Story, they better find a way to lock him up long term or this management team is looking foolish. We already got Semien to worry about unless we want to move Biggio back to 2B, Story 3B and take back a compensation pick for Semien.
  22. That would sound great if Hand was having a great season and wasn't a free agent in a couple of months. I'm just not a fan of trying to push for a wild card birth considering the position we're in currently.
  23. Whatever the Jays do, we better not be getting rentals. It's extremely shortsighted.
  24. Friggin Padres man. Their 6th starter would be a #2 on most teams. It's ridiculous.
  25. Controllable players for at least next season should be our only move unless we're getting a total steal of a rental. This would be an awesome move but will damage the farm system quite a bit.
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