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He's under 9ks per 9 with a really low HR rate. Is that sustainable? My bar for so good that i want to pay for control begins with a much higher strikeout rate. They also produced Fisher and Little this year which was extremely valuable. Why not back yourself to do that next year? If he can start... that's different. If his velo has ticked up independently of him switching to relief.. and he can maintain 85% of his stuff starting, then i love it. Otherwise, we just paid a high price for a reliever who doesn't strike people out, when that is like the main thing everyone wants in a leverage reliever.
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I could see it as a desperation move maybe
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Varland had his very first ever productive season in baseball this year. He is the guy who just made changes and got better. You are just illustrating why you don't pay for control of god damn relievers.
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Years of control don't matter. But track record for the next few months matter to me. You don't have to pay for the track record. You have to pay for the control. Doval struck out 12 per 9 last year with a 3.44 xERA. That's good. .
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What have they done pitching wise where i'd assume he knows more than cashman or the rays when it comes to acquiring pitching at the deadline? They are considered two of the best pitching orgs in baseball. Atkins has done nothing to deserve some kind of genius status and kudos for doing the 'unpredictable' thing. He's a thoroughly middle of the road gm who has ONE homegrown starter in ten years. He's not a bad gm but he's not some genius where only the 'smart' people out there can really digest how clever it is to sign varland for his 5 years of control. What a mystifying concept us plebs could never understand.
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Isn't the NL considered better than the AL this year? it is debateable but we PAID a lot more
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You see that doval has 4 years of track record and still strikes out more guys than varland who has zero years of track record even in his down year? Give me the first guy.
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Doval
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The more i look at varland.. i just don't see it. His stuff really played up in relief but he's still not even 9k/9. This is the literal first year he's been good and he's 27. He throws hard and he gets groundballs. That's nice but why is that so important in terms of getting control? The yankees got two better relievers for less than we paid for one. That matters way more this year. they both also have way more track record. Either spend more and get Jax who strikes out the world and has control. Or spend less and get better rentals. We chose the weird middle where we got control of someone with no track record and doesn't strike people out. He's essentially a slightly worse version of Fisher. I love fisher. The point is we can create our own fisher again next year. We don't need to buy control of that.
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Athletic review of our deadline is that we are one of the losers of the deadline. Should have got better relievers essentially.
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I'd definitely take Roden over Loperfido. I think our bullpen is much improved for this year though. Maybe one more rental reliever but varland and dominquez are good adds. I just don't like the price.
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The Twins don't have all these guys by coincidence. They think they can just make new ones. they also are being sold. Although worrying about varland's money is weird. We did pay a lot.
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How long is the list of relievers who are good for 5 years?
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You are massively underestimating someone who had a bad first taste of the majors.
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France must have been just a throw in? I just don't see how he fits other than maybe DHing twice a week and pinch hitting.
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If he starts next year, I love this.
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He's not getting paid that. That's roughly how much that WAR is worth.
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I think everyone is underrating Roden.
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Yes. Because roden would also make 800k and is projected to be a just above 2 WAR player. That's worth about 140m over his control. We COULD just get a rental reliever that is at least 90% of varland and do that repeatedly every offseason and every deadline and never get close to 140m over 7 years. That's not counting rojas. Deadline prices for relievers are high (for their war output) because its SO important when you are good. But its not important to lock that down years in advance because firstly they are variable by nature and secondly you don't want to pay deadline prices pro rated over 5 years of control for a reliever. its a bad deal in the way starters and position players generally aren't. IF they have a plan to move him back to start next year, i like this.
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Maybe they have a plan for Varland to start next year but we aren't really that type of org usually.
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Roden and Rojas are real prospects they spent on control of a reliever who isn't uber elite. Its dumb.
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We paid way way way more than anyone else for comparable relievers for no reason
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Does it? That's like what... 4% of our budget? Why would that matter?
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Its great to have control of position players and starting pitchers. Relievers are so enigmatic, that control of anyone who isn't elite is not worth much. The only way this works is if he goes back to starting.
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And what is the point of Vance? Is he going to DH? We have like 4 guys who rotate through there.
