Carlos Danger

Isn’y there a new rule for 2024, 12 pitchers max?

Rafaela was playing last season though. So not really apples and apples.

The owner operator could be fined or serve up to 5 yrs max depending if it remains a Fed case or it is deferred to the state. The people actually placing bets need to know it was illegal and would probably plea out so the Prosecutors could get the operator. If no criminal history and with a good attorney maybe a fine or suspended sentence if that.

Why wouldn’t the terp take the fall. Making $300k as a terp. Makes nothing if Ohtani goes down. Takes the hit and Ohtani pays him for life behind the scenes or something like that. Not saying Ohtani did anything wrong. Just saying why the terp would take a hit.

It was on March 20th, 2024, that the Espinal trade finally brought unity to BJMB, not seen since September 12th, 2001.

I would have been happy with a bag of balls or not cared if he was DFAd. However, getting a pitcher with great control is a good deal. All the other stuff can be worked on, but control is the most elusive.

I wonder if the injury to McClain is worse than letting on…

Yes! Said like Frank the Tank

Do we have a 2024 predictions thread? Or was that the projections thread?

I think I would rather have Montgomery for consistency. Now we have a baseline to work backwards from.

Who is our aircraft carrier?

I thought if you buy MLB TV prior to the season starting it is a little cheaper?

Doesn’t matter your velocity if you can’t locate. @MW

Also, the media thinks it is because Stroman wants to pitch the Yankees home opener and if he starts game 1 on the road he would be out of sync for the home opener. The Yankee's home opener being against the Blue Jays of course.

I saw that, hence I deleted my post. I guess not before you regulated.

Danny Jansen, the Buxton of catchers…..

Scott Boras already called 5 times this AM.

I think it is the National's pitching coach or maybe the GM Mike Rizzo who puts a sign up every year in Spring Training Camp. "We don't care what the velocity was on ball four". Or something like that.... Look at White's BB/9.. Look at his projections of the 6 projection orgs. All have him at below average to awful with his the mean being "poor". Velocity or Swinging strike % etc only matters if you have control.

He was acquired by the Blue Jays on Aug 1st, 2022 or somewhere very close to there. I should not judge him on one season and two months of baseball as a Blue Jay and still consider his mid success as a Dodger, when making a 2024 roster evaluation?

Ok, fair point. However, two points from my side. 1.This conversation started from the premise that White is a viable Depth SP. If he is going to be a long man etc, different risk matrix and different leash IMO. 2. I preface this by stating I can't provide a data based rebut on this point. 100% from fuzzy memory. I recall there was a game last season where we went into extras or we had used the majority of our pitchers, the pen was on fumes. The only fresh pitcher left in the pen was White. The Blue Jays decided to go with a pitcher who had already pitched two or three consecutive days prior instead of going with a fresh White. The fatigued pitcher ended up giving up the go ahead runs and we lost. Want to say vs Dodgers on the road... The question at the time was roster management. Why was White even taking up a roster spot if the manager has no confidence in using him? I think this year MLB is mandating 12 pitchers vice 13. Or soon anyway. We won't be able to afford a pitcher that the manager only has confidence to use in a blowout...

Why is what he did on occasion with the Dodgers three years ago relevant to how he has pitched as a Blue Jay? Why would the Dodgers (a very smart team) give up on a controllable young SP for some “mid” prospect? We might have got them on the Stripling trade, but twice??? This article is from July of 2023, but what has changed? https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/blue-jays-can-treat-mitch-white-as-a-cautionary-tale-with-trade-deadline-approaching-161254413.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKybsAF6Cc44ThN4GonWzGI-t0DIvQSpgQ96wj9FZ-M5ZQCfNZPsESeidX2yJKYU5s0bYNqoBff6VXwGCOABJMjq3ntGL4k_-SNeMLMGmfc1jkYRL1O9bAsuz57voABDQoc6NLOnwgx0o3tl25Bf94yKy7bPJ2YrvbNDeQbprEGD White has a 7.43 ERA in 53.1 innings in Toronto, working as a starter and long reliever. There have been 216 pitchers who've logged at least 50 innings with the Blue Jays in their history, and that number ranks 212th. Max you can FIP me all day long and not even have to buy me dinner. However, I am a very results oriented person. I need to see MLB results with the Blue Jays before I change my assessment.

https://www.mlb.com/news/toronto-blue-jays-top-30-prospects-list-2024-preseason?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

I would agree that I think Ryan and Hurt should be above him at this point among others. Regardless if Frasso is 80 or 150, barring some come back player of the year s*** for White, I still think the Dodgers got the better end of the stick.

This was a Dodger centric review by MLB Pipeline dated March 6th. They have had plenty of opportunity to adjust. Los Angeles has just two Top 100 Prospects, matching its lowest total in the last decade, and one of them (right-hander Nick Frasso) may miss this season following shoulder surgery. But the Dodgers do have a pair of outfielders with potent bats (Andy Pages, Josue De Paula), another wave of nearly-ready arms (River Ryan, Gavin Stone, Kyle Hurt) and plenty of young talent stacked up behind them. They also replenish their system by masterfully trading for prospects while contending, which is how they landed Frasso, Ryan and Hurt in the past and left-hander Jackson Ferris, outfielder Zyhir Hope and shortstops Trey Sweeney and Noah Miller this offseason. MLB Pipeline | Top 100 prospects | Prospect video Here’s a look at the Dodgers' top prospects: 1. Dalton Rushing, C/1B (MLB No. 75) 2. Nick Frasso, RHP (MLB No. 80) 3. Andy Pages, OF 4. Josue De Paula, OF 5. River Ryan, RHP Complete Top 30 list »

He emerged as Los Angeles' best pitching prospect in 2023 before tearing the labrum in his pitching shoulder and having surgery in November that will sideline him for all or most of this season.