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Then who plays CF? Cutch can't anymore

Get Ruby and Corbin. Pen would be awesome

What would Dozier cost? Owed only $15M over the next 2 years. Shift Travis to LF

Didn't his previous WAR value come primarily from solid defense at 3rd? He's now just a league average bat without strong platoon splits who we'd stick at 1st base. He'd probably be better than Smoak, but not a great target, especially if he'd cost $8M.

Morales can play 1st guys...Maybe not for 162 games, but enough to give JD and Tulo a break now and then and during interleague play

Well thank god - I was thinking to myself....why? don't we have better ways to measure this now with Statcast....

E5...

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=dh&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2016&month=0&season1=2015&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=17,d 5th in wRC+ over the past 2 years - tied with Carlos Santana and 2 points from Carlos Beltran for 4th. Ortiz is gone now, so you could say he's currently the 3rd or 4th best hitting DH in baseball.

I guess I'm just looking at the guys they signed as FA's. Fielder, Upton, Zimmerman, Nathan and V-Mart are all terrible and I suspect they'll soon regret that Miggy deal. You say Sanchez worked out fine...he gave them one GREAT year, one very good year and now he looks like he's done. 3 of the 5 years will be lost in that deal + he has a $5M buyout on his option year. I don't think their spending has been the reason they won 4 straight division titles (you could argue that signing/keeping their good young players was a key factor, as was stumbling upon JD Martinez, somehow getting Kinsler for Fielder, etc.). It certainly appears their heavy spending may be the reason they struggle to win for the next decade.

Directly from the depths of his ass.

Because spending like drunken sailor isn't' a recipe for success. We don't want to become the Tigers and Angels.

Nick Markakis? Wtf is wrong with you people? We'd be better off handing the job to Pompey

I'm fairly sure he doesn't.

Thank God you're not our GM. Don't live in the past. Cards left Albert f***ing Pujols go and kept winning

We'll then I don't want him either. But if he's made significant changes ala JD Martinez, D.Murphy, J. Turner, etc. He had the same wRC+ as Machado and Fowler last year...ahead of Arenado, Springer, Turner and Zobrist

Smoak's platoon partner + backup at another 3 or 4 positions. Someone said he made significant swing changes last year. If that bat is for real, he's a great fit....hopefully on a short, cheap deal. Plus he'll challenge JD for best hair on the team

I was going to argue that Sanchez's mechanics suggest he's going to blow out his arm...however, considering Sale is the poster child for pitchers who you think will blow out their arms, but haven't - I'm just going stick that thought in my back pocket.

Don't forget Rondon too.

Sale and Eaton for Sanchez, Alford and Urena. Make it happen.

Wow guys - this is amazing. Kudos to King and all those who submitted rankings and comments. We have a TON of talent in the lower levels. Add 3 more 1st round picks in the upcoming draft and the future is very bright. Go Jays

Can we move this to the thread Morales thread please. Jesus.

KK - for me, it's all about maximizing value. It's hard to embrace our great rotation when we have Upton and Zeke penciled in our starting OF. It looks plausible to pair Upton with a FA platoon partner, but that leaves Zeke in RF and that makes me want to vomit. Curious to see what Shatkins comes up with. Moving Happ while the value is maxed out is something to consider.

I'd disagree for the following reasons: 1. You're cherry picking. Trumbo and Fowler worked out great, but there's a list of OFers who didn't provide value (Austin Jackson, Parra, Span, Aoki) 2. Dickerson isn't an impact outfielder. He's f***ing s***. 3. I can gather a list of discount pitchers who provided great returns last year (Colon, Hill, Lewis, Estrada, Happ) - just like you can point to a couple of OFers who had great years. 4. Decent OFers like Justin Upton, Span, Rasmus and Parra all cost quite a bit (and subsequently, all of them sucked penis). The reality is there are SPing and OF bargins available every year and there are SPers and OFers who get overpaid every year. The key is identifying them. This team only has 1 starting OFer right now (who can't hit) and there are no in-house replacements in sight (unless you still believe in Pompey). Adding a young OFer with years of control would be a massive plus for this contending team....Google Cubs, Chicago and see how they built a sustainable winner. I'd also argue the Blue Jays didn't get "the new Happ". He's remarkably similar to the "old" Happ actually. Only in July and August last year did Happ resemble the "new Happ" that we saw in Pittsburgh the year before. Unless the Jays have identified what he has to do to be that guy consistently (and seeing how he pitching in September & October - there's nothing to suggest they did) - this will be the peak of his value.

But he's a sparkplug - he makes things happen

We need 2 starting OFers sir. Sign Reddick to platoon with Upton in LF regardless of whether you deal Happ. Now fill RF please - excluding platoon options because there isn't room. The true equation might be Angel Pagan + Happ or Conforto/Puig + Cashner/B.Anderson/Peavy/Wilson/etc. Maybe we are better to keep our starting pitching depth and find an OFer in the dumpster.........but if I can land a young OFer with multiple years of control left and sell High on Happ - I'm all over that...