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TREAD ATHLETICS (@tread_athletics) • Instagram reel WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM 1,945 likes, 2 comments - tread_athletics on December 9, 2024: "Tanner Scott went from an average big-league reliever to a highly sought-after trade piece in his platform year... Interesting little video about Scott and the changes he made with Tread Athletics to harness his "stuff" and become elite.
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Countdown to ST 2025 (In Blue Jays Jersey Numbers)
Brownie19 replied to Pendleton's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Early candidate for POTY. This is so true. Those last 2 pictures make my eyes bleed. -
Agreed - I'm not a huge fan of having to click out of "Toronto Blue Jays Talk" and into "Other Baseball" or "Blue Jays Minor League Talk" to get to the Around Baseball or Official MiLB/Prospect threads. At least I'm not used to it at all yet.
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I must admit - I never knew Danny Ainge played baseball at all, let alone for the Blue Jays. This really shows how much baseball has changed. I know the Jays were still a s***** expansion team at the time, but they sent a 2 sport athlete, drafted out of high school, directly to AAA, where he was terrible - and then called him up and gave him 331 PA's at the age of 20 (where he produced a 45 wRC+ and -0.7 WAR). Unreal.
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I hear what you're saying. He could choose to improve his english to the point that he's comfortable enough to use it during an interview. That probably would endear him with more fans. But as was pointed out, there's a good chance he's been told not to do that - not to risk it. At the end of the day - player interviews are stupid anyway.
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I'd certainly be happy with 3 years of Parades (3.85 WAR/yr in his first 2 full seasons) and the 14th overall pick in last years draft (73rd overall prospect) + an arm for Vlad. Seems similar to what SD got for Soto last year. It would give the Jays an opportunity to retool quicker than a full teardown/rebuild.
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Don't be a d*ck please. Perhaps I should have re-phrased it to ask "how much more" do you get by trading him now v. at the deadline. The difference may be less than you think under certain circumstances.
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I'm not convinced there are more "suitors" now. That could change by the deadline due to injuries and such. You could also have teams that wouldn't currently consider him, change their minds if they are "one piece away" at the deadline. #2 and #3 are fair - especially the point that they could trade him at the deadline if their season doesn't go the way they'd hoped. That's a strong point. You could very well be right though - 85% chance you "get more now".
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Vientos is awful defensively at 3rd though...it seems like a good fit to let Alonso go and move him to 1st...
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He was projected for 3 years $36M on Fangraphs. I have to think Hoffman and Scott sign for "about that". Unfortunately, I'm not sure we have the budget left to sign someone like that. I do wonder what 1 year of Ryan Helsley would cost via trade.
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Do we know how true this is? I think we've certainly seen the value of players change as the season progresses due to injuries/needs. If there's a rash of closers hurt, you can get more for him at the deadline than you may have at the start of the season. That may not apply to someone at the level of Vlad, but if Vlad is in the midst of a massive season, I could certainly see a bidding war at the deadline. Sometime when teams can "taste it" they're more inclined to pay the price. Interesting topic to discuss.
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100% - that's a terrible return IMO.
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That's likely to be a career year for him. He's a 1 trick pony. Teo at 3 yrs $66M is a pretty good comp
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Most "think" that as well (me included), but there are some concerning red flags surrounding his recent results, ability to stay healthy and his ability to maintain production as he ages... Can I ask - are you new to the board? (if so, welcome!) or did you name change with the move to the new site?
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I don't see any situation where Bo signs an extension right now - unless we offer "stupid" money. He'll play out this year and hit the FA market next offseason. Lots of speculation that he wants to move on too. To be honest, he's been downright awful since his injury in August 2023 and there's still some uncertainty about what he'll be this year - and in the future (as much as we all want to pencil in another 4 WAR season for him).
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At least Vlad was awesome last year - so his trade value is as high as possible. If he'd flipped his production in 2023 and 2024, we'd be in a very difficult situation - similar to what we have with Bo right now where you almost have to keep him to let him re-build his value this season before you trade him.
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Good news, the new site doesn't block threads created by people on your IL
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This requires defense and baserunning. It's essentially impossible for Vlad to put up a 9 WAR season.
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Interesting - I never heard that. It always felt like the Angels were just hoping to add around Trout/Ohtani in hopes that success would help "keep" Ohtani there. If Vlad is telling the Jays to "build a winner around me and I'll consider staying" then I hope we cut bait.
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Yes.
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Of course he did. All good though - I can still see it. Thanks.
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I agree with this. His inconsistencies and immaturities certainly made the FO hesitate and it doesn't appear they pushed as hard as they could have for a long term extension - and rightfully so. As someone who came from money, he had no reason to "accept" even a fair offer either. I don't blame them for taking it year by year to see how this would playout. Recognizing he's a unique talent, you have to think they were hoping he'd figure it out and become the backbone of the core. That seems to have happened, as there's a good probability he's an elite hitter for the next 5-6 years. Unfortunately, the timing sucks as Ohtani and Soto have changed the market. I suspect (hope?) they are having very serious conversations with Vlad right now to gauge how realistic is will be to extend him. If they aren't close, he needs to be moved. If they are close, then lets get it done. I do hate the idea of heading into the season without this resolved. I hope we aren't going to repeat what the Angels did with Ohtani.
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Is anyone going to make a 2025 thread?
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What Would Make This A Successful Jays Offseason In Your View?
Brownie19 replied to Jays24's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
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It's certainly going to be increasing difficult for Atkins to remain discipline and stick to their evaluations. There are some things I like about Tony (low K's, power, switch hitter), but I'm not sure he's the guy you want to go on tilt and sign out of desperation.
