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  1. Selling off all the impending free agent vets at the deadline is the best course for this team. The worst thing that can happen to this team is to keep everyone and not make the playoffs. They really can't afford to add anyone at the deadline since the farm system is s*** and the actual good prospects shouldn't be traded, so it's either keep this team together and hope for a run, or do the sensible thing and try to avoid more years of misery by adding prospects at the deadline that hopefully can help the team out in 2017-beyond.
  2. Man, almost every hitter on this team aged like Greg Oden in six months. This offense is straight up trash now.
  3. Yeah, you're looking at a C level prospect at best for Storen at this rate. i guess just saving a few bucks might be beneficial on its own if someone takes his entire remaining salary.
  4. I know it's baseball and even bad teams win ~60 games, but man the Jays really should sweep the Twins this weekend. They need it to make up some ground.
  5. The only man who would ever hire John Gibbons to manage a baseball team this decade is in Los Angeles right now. His time is numbered. It's just a matter of when Shapiro wants to pull the trigger.
  6. Estrada and Happ look like huge assets right now. If the Jays wanted to trade them, given the free agent market next year and their controllability, they'd probably get a decent return. Not suggesting they trade them, but just emphasizing how good those contracts look now.
  7. Not many on this board (this forum is by far the best one out there), but everywhere else? It is (or was) very pro-AA. I don't see why his faults can't be brought up, especially when practically every big move he made since 2013, other than Donaldson, has been or will end up being a disaster (see Martin's contract). This team is in the shithole it is because of him. I said at the time, no one in 2017 is going to care about the 2015 playoffs if the team is s*****. 2015 is over. Reality has set in. As far as the trades he made last year being ones "everyone would make", false. The Donaldson trade, absolutely. Tulo, Price, etc? It was conflicted at the time, and probably even moreso now.
  8. When the guy gets treated as a hero when he leaves despite leaving the new president/GM with an old roster and no farm system, it's fair game. If the hero worship/dick riding didn't exist, then maybe people would go easier on him.
  9. AA valued Gomes so little as a catcher that he had him playing all over the field (3B?). It was Kevin Cash who was in the Jays org, went to Cleveland after 2012 and suggested to acquire him, if I recall correctly. JPA was AA's future CA despite being a s***** hitter and defensive player. Then, when framing started to become more recognized, AA spent $82M to get a catcher in his 30's to do something Gomes (or d'Arnaud) would have done for the league minimum. Now, one year after signing Martin, framing is no longer undervalued, so Martin's deal looks unmovable and his framing numbers are no longer as impressive. The whole f***ing thing is sad.
  10. I never said it had anything to do with the lineup change. Gibbons is ass as a manager. Hale can't be any worse.
  11. Let Hale take over the rest of the season.
  12. Yeah, I was looking at the standings trying to determine which teams would have interest in Bautista, and the White Sox jumped out at me. They seem like a team that would pull an AA and go for short-term gratification, too. Whether they have the young talent that would help the Jays is another story.
  13. Yeah, that doesn't look good. I don't see a way out of it either. The free agent market sucks, they have nothing in the minors, and no expendable prospects to trade for upgrades. I don't know if Shapiro is a smooth enough talker to sell trading Donaldson, but it might be necessary if 2016 goes in the shitter.
  14. Agreed. I'm not sure what we can get for Dickey, Smoak, Saunders, etc, but you would think the Jays would get a few players with upside for JB and EE, and that will help in 2017 and beyond. I will not shed a tear if this team collapses. AA made this bed, and someone else has to clean it up. I'd rather start the clean up now and make the down period as short as possible.
  15. Yep that was me. Make the playoffs again? Good. Stink up the joint forcing the team to trade vets at the deadline to help the lifeless farm system? Good. I guess the one downside is if the team does nothing and then finishes sub-.500 or around .500 anyway, but I hope it doesn't come to that.
  16. About to be 9 games back in the loss column behind Baltimore. In mid freakin' May. That's a pretty big hole to climb out of.
  17. When the fans gave Gibbons a standing ovation at their season ticket event, it was karma. The Baseball Gods couldn't believe a fanbase was that stupid, and decided to put an end to it. The 2016 season is their punishment. I don't blame him.
  18. So, what type of package could Bats and Edwin fetch at the deadline??? (trying to find a silver lining here).
  19. With a s*** farm system, an aging roster about to lose two of its best players, and a payroll that doesn't figure to get any higher, I highly doubt that expecting short-term success is reasonable. It's possible, sure, but a lot of work needs to be done, and I don't think this front office is married to the core of this team.
  20. Donaldson is 30 with two years of control left after this season before he's a FA. Stroman looks good, Sanchez (if he keeps this up) looks like a good MLB starter, Travis looked good last season, and Osuna is a good reliever who hasn't thrown more than 75 innings in a season. A lot of work needs to be done. AA left this team with one year of contention left and then a dumpster fire. Don't get it twisted.
  21. Like I said before, if the Jays are going to lose, I hope they go full 2012/13. That way Shapiro can clean house even earlier (trade deadline). This roster had a one year window. If that window has already closed, then f*** it, try to get as much young talent for the impending free agents as possible. Beg Bats and Edwin to waive their NTC's in July if you have to.
  22. Yeah, Stroman seems like the type of pitcher who you use for six years and then let go to free agency, which sucks because he's such a likable guy.
  23. Yep, this looks like a team that realizes their run is over, and is trying to cling to past performance as much as they can. The sad part is, the Jays got exactly two months out of this group. Most of these teams get at least a couple of years before the window closes and they have to rebuild. AA traded 3 season's worth of prospects for two freakin' months. Alex Amaro Jr. left this org at just the right time. He left a hero instead of staying long enough to be the villain. Smart man.
  24. The sad thing is, casual fans will blame this season on Shapiro if things go poorly, even though it's AA's roster with AA's manager/pitching coach/hitting coach and AA's fingerprints all over it. The fact that people acted like he was a God when he left still embarrasses me as a fan. Toronto fans are so thirsty they were blinded by what could be a one off playoff run.
  25. Yep. This roster only had one more year of contention before it has to be dismantled. Shapkins knew that, and built the team like they did accordingly. No way this regime wants to keep all the old players, with good reason. They don't want to pay market value for the declining years, and the window for this roster is closing rapidly. AA left before he could Amaro this team even more than he already did. I want the Jays to make the playoffs and win the World Series this year, but if they lose, I want them to go full 2013. They have a ton of trade chips that will be free agents at the end of the season, and a farm system/MLB roster that desperately needs young talent. It makes a ton of sense to unload vets at the deadline if they fall out of it. It might even be better for the team long-term to go that route, but obviously if they have to real chance to make the playoffs, that should take greater priority.
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