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  1. Yes the players are depressed over losing AA. that explains it. It's also all Shapiro's fault despite 95% of this team being the guys he inherited. Like I said, AA dipped at the right time. Don't think for one second he didn't know what he was doing.
  2. In the long run they probably are better off trading players at the deadline (JB, EE, Dickey, Cecil, Saunders, etc). Chances are you'll only be getting picks for JB and EE, and ultimately the type of players you can get at the deadline (prospects that are ready/near ready) carry far more value than draft picks. They will have to be really far back in July for that to be realistic, though. The Jays are 2 games under .500 despite not really playing well for any stretch of the season. They probably have a sustained run in them at some point (11 game winning streak if recent history is any indication). They'll probably be too good to completely blow it up mid-season. But yes, I agree that trading vets at the deadline does not have a downside to it. The Jays are old and have a s*** farm system.
  3. Yeah seriously. Practically all of Shapiro's moves this winter have helped the team except for Storen, and that was the definition of a 'win now' move. While I agree that Shapiro did not want to continue with AA's core when he was first hired, that clearly changed after what happened in Aug-Oct 2015. He was trying to win in 2016. He just inherited a roster that collectively isn't playing well right now. Someone like Shapiro who knows about win curves isn't going to get joy out of wasting a perfectly good chance of making the playoffs/winning a world series just so he could detonate the roster to his mold. I'm sure he'll be doing that anyway in 2017 when this roster ceases to exist in its current form (JB/EE leaving), but his plans were clearly different heading into 2016. Shapkins added depth to AA's team. That's what we are seeing right now. They could still turn it around, but if that does happen, it will have to happen because the stars play like stars.
  4. Shapiro probably wanted to rebuild due to the team's poor farm system and aging roster, but he kept AA's team together and added some depth around it. AA dipped at the right time, and he knew exactly what he was doing.
  5. Bautista is universally disliked based on all the fan comments I have read. Umpires obviously hate him because he keeps showing them up. He certainly didn't help matters by going public with his demands in spring training for no reason, giving the perception that he's greedy/delusional with his contract expectations (though he has every right to want as much $ as he can get). We just have to accept that he's hated. If he wasn't a Jay, we might be right there with everyone else. He's still one of my all time favorites though.
  6. O Not in baseball, but just in general. I'm not suggesting that I'm an MMA fighter or anything, but if someone shoved me, I'd be prepared for something beyond that. It looked like Bautista expected the typical athlete "hold me back man!" fight where no one lands anything and bravado is only shown when the player is restrained, but that doesn't mean he should have taken it for granted like that. If someone shoves you, be prepared. If the punch came before the shove, then I'd look at it differently. It's cruel irony that one meme (bat flip) will now turn into another (punch in the face). I loved the bat flip, but fans hate Bautista like we hate Machado, Ventura, etc. what can you do?
  7. Bush's story is not compelling at all. He does not deserve any respect for what he's done in the past (a second chance is fine but not a heart warming story). Regardless, that was obviously Bannister's call, IMO. They waited until his last AB for a reason.
  8. Bautista doesn't know how to fight is what I got out of this. The moment Odor pushed him he should have been ready for something. I guess when staring disapprovingly at someone doesn't work, he has no counter. Not a good look, Jose. Odor is a scumbag but don't let him punk you out like that. I guess Jose wasn't expecting a punch, and most athlete punches on the field don't connect, but man, that will be a meme forever now. Regardless, Odor is a ********, Bautista is hated by everyone except the Jays/Jays fans, and the Jays lose another freakin series.
  9. Yep. They'll need to find replacements in RF, 1B, DH, LF, and the usual (SP/RP/BN depth) and the existing core on offense will all be in their 30's (Donaldson/Tulo/Martin), and the young talent coming up is essentially Pompey. Then you're left with hoping Travis is both healthy and anywhere near the type of impact talent he was in 2015 going forward. People flipped out when I said AA pulled a Ruben Amaro (how dare I compare him to Amaro???), but look where the team is heading. They might make the playoffs in 2016 if the vets start to hit, but my god, it looks like s*** after that.
  10. I'm more worried about the Jays being saddled with Tulo and Martin for 3-4 more seasons after this one. I've already accepted that Bautista and Edwin are goners after the year (and it's the right call when putting sentiment aside) but Tulo/Martin are going to be hard to move or untradeable so they better improve.
  11. Tepera being up in the first place is likely due to Gibbons, but then again, it's probably time to stop blaming Redneck Cito and putting some blame on Atkins and co. for accommodating him.
  12. Goins is so bad even when he gets a hit he makes an out. Travis with one functioning shoulder can't be worse.
  13. Using Biagini for 2 pitches was a smart move in a close game, Gibbons. There was no way this game was going into extras so nice of you to completely eliminate a potential multiple inning reliever for 1 batter while you give Drew Storen with 3 mph less on his FB the chance to lose it for an entire inning (but luckily didn't).
  14. Put Martin on the DL if he's hurt. Seriously. Thole and AJ Jimenez together would outproduce Martin right now.
  15. I'm convinced that early-00s Kirk Rueter could strike out Martin 4 times in 4 AB's right now. Or hell, Rueter today can probably do that.
  16. The 2016 team better make the playoffs. Keeping track of the farm system this season has been depressing. Give us something entertaining to watch this summer, Jays.
  17. A tear trickled down Pete Walker's cheek as he read that.
  18. Floyd and Chavez could be used in these situations, and then they could use Storen in lesser spots until he gets his performance back up to par. Using him stubbornly in the 8th inning because "veteranz" is the type of dumb s*** old school managers always do.
  19. 1 run game, lets bring in the guy whose velocity is down and has looked like s*** all season. Veteranz!
  20. How can a pitcher as mediocre as Dickey hold 2 roster spots hostage? I mean, he has value (average innings eater) but not worth carrying Thole.
  21. Burns will take playing time away from Barney before he takes it away from Goins. When Gibby likes someone, it's unconditional.
  22. Hey the Jays are hitting!! Was waiting for this. Has Bautista been beaned in this series? If not, with this being a blowout, I'd be careful if I were him.
  23. Pillar at lead off was a bad idea. Pillar as a player in general is very good.
  24. You could probably find a taker for Tulo, but no one is going to take a catcher in his 30's making $20m a year until age 35. Jays are probably stuck with Martin.
  25. Goins was being rewarded for 2015. Or something.
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