Yeah I don't mind resting Tulo and Saunders. They are both prone to injury and it is a day game after an extra innings night game. Still enough to beat the Pads although with the Dickster on the mound you never know.
Well, I hate Gibbons, but he did that with Grilli and it worked out. I don't expect it to work out as well with Benoit, but yeah, he'll probably do it. Veteran presentz and all.
Are people really calling this a great move though?
Benoit's throwing as hard as he normally does and still striking guys out at a high clip, but he's obviously old as hell and no lock to improve. Storen lost 2 mph on his fastball and is giving up a s*** ton of hard contact. He could improve, but the warning signs are much greater with him.
It's a lateral move with some upside if Benoit's command comes back. That's a pretty reasonable assessment. No one is calling this a great trade. If anything is great about it, it's the fact that instead of paying Storen to Netflix and Chill with his wife, we are paying Benoit to hopefully rebound from his poor start.
Grilli with ATL picking up the tab (+affordable team option for 2017).
Upton with SD picking up $17m of the $22m he has left on his deal (controllable through 2017).
Benoit for Storen likely in a salary neutral trade (I'm guessing Jays are paying the difference in $ to even it out)
I'm liking these moves.
Grilli part 2.
Benoit's velocity is right where it normally is. His struggles in 2016 could just be a small sample size, whereas Storen lost mph on his FB and was giving up a s*** ton more hard contact than he ever had before.
Lateral move, but might be an upgrade.
This team losing close games at a high clip every year is not a coincidence with Sling Blade managing the team. Just have to hope the team can pull through anyway.
I hope the Jays have the bases loaded when the 8th spot comes up. I'm curious how Gibbons will manage from here on out, kind of like giving a loaded gun to a moron and seeing what he'll do next.
Wait, so Upton pinch hit for Smoak, and instead of moving Upton to the OF and Bautista to 1B, Gibbons took Edwin from DH to 1B and now the Jays have to have the pitcher bat 8th?
This roster is too complicated for Redneck Gaston.
Rosenthal mentioned the Jays interest in Upton last week, and said the deal was close last night.
This ain't the AA era anymore. We might hear about trades before they are announced more often now.
They'll probably give both of them time at DH while Upton covers LF and RF.
I don't think this means the end of Zeke. He's prob going to be the 4th OF with Upton starting. It will be Smoak who sees his role diminish, if anything.
He had a 110 wRC+ in 2015 (228 Pa) and 100 so far this season, and he brings at least some value on defence and on the bases. Smoak was at 107 last season and 101 this year, and he's a slug at 1b and the bases. We are looking at two average hitters at absolute best, but one of them brings defensive value and speed, and he's been much better in LF this season than he has been in center (and he's not playing center over Pillar on this team).
Like I said, if the Pads are picking up most of the tab and the Jays are giving up very little, then it is an upgrade in 2016 and gives them depth in 2017 with two OF's leaving. Even a Carrera/Upton platoon is probably better than Smoak playing everyday.
I'd rather go with Pompey too, but for whatever reason that's not happening.
Upton wouldn't be my first choice but I don't want to see Bautista and Saunders play the OF together. That's two pylons beside Pillar. Upton is better than Smoak, and that's really the way I'm looking at it. But if they give up anything of value, I'd be disappointed.
Smoak is replacement level, and Bautista and Saunders are s*** fielders. Upton is probably just as good a hitter as Smoak but plays a solid OF, which means they can move Bats and MS to DH. Improves the defense tremendously and does nothing to the offense, maybe even improves it since at least Upton can run a bit.
This would be an upgrade for 2016, no question. Depends what is given up though. Better not be a good prospect, and I suspect it won't be.
A 2 WAR OF has value, and that's pretty much what he is now. Not someone I'd pay $16M to, so depends how much SD is covering. Upgrade over Smoak in 2016, and OF depth for 2017 if/when JB and MS leave.
Upton in OF > Smoak at 1B.
Depends on the cost and how much SD eats up. Better not be a real prospect. Maybe they are keeping Barnes in the minors for a reason.
His FB velocity is down 2 mph and he's getting hit harder than he ever has before. He might be able to turn things around but it's not like the Jays gave up on him because of his ERA. He's been pretty damn bad with some red flags around him.
With that said, getting rid of him just to bring up Tepera is pointless. I'd rather have Storen with a velocity drop than Tepera fully healthy.