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d'Arnaud with a 126 wRC+ and 1.3 WAR since being traded to the Rays. I swear, that org could turn one of us into a big league player.
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Balazovic, Duran, and Urbina for Stroman works on that trade simulator thingy. I think Graterol just has too many red flags for me to build a package around him, and Larnach looks ordinary. The lower minors guys are further away but could be fast risers.
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Graterol has already had TJS and is now suffering shoulder issues. He's clearly the best pitcher in their system but there is a lot of risk there.
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Yeah I'm only stat scouting, but his numbers in the minors don't look anything special. Unless he can play CF, I wouldn't want a package built around him. I would assume he will be included in any deal though since the Twins don't really need him.
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Morosi is such a troll with his tweets. He knows nothing. Either Kenny Ken, or someone like Sherman/Heyman who once in a while will be the first to announce something. Morosi is s***.
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The thing is Shapiro seems like he would be really good in that role of communicating with players, even in his interviews he can describe things very clearly and logically, but Atkins might not be cut out for that, and it shows.
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Yeah the fact that players are so comfortable taking shots at Shatkins whether they are on the way out or in the minors waiting for a callup (Bo) is not good. They need to fix that s***. Even if it's an optics issue, hire someone to deal with that.
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No GM in the world believes or ever believed that the Jays want to extend Stroman.
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Stating a fact, not complaining.
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I don't think we are disagreeing here. The Jays don't have to trade him, so any team that low balls them will (hopefully) have to up their offer or f*** off. That doesn't mean other teams actually believe the Jays will extend him, and the Jays don't want to be in a position like they were with JD where they have a top asset with one year of control in a market where control is everything. Teams know this as well. So someone is going to bend, either Atkins or the team that acquires Stroman. If Stro has the type of value that Joel Sherman says he does, then we should be in a good spot regardless, but Atkins still has to prove his trading ability.
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If teams know the Jays have no intention of extending him, then the only leverage is the 2020 year of control, which is clearly leverage as the Jays can just keep him instead of making a bad trade. My point was that Stroman is saying he's not signing an extension, I think most people know the Jays have no interest in doing so (whether due to Stro's demands or otherwise), so the threat of an extension isn't really a thing. I'm just responding to that quote at face value. At this point, everyone knows he's available and the Jays will take the best offer they get (unless it is dog s***, in which case I hope they just hold on to him). Everything else is just posturing which is typical around this time.
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They don't have to trade him, yes, but it is hard to use "we might extend him" as leverage when Stroman is saying the opposite every time someone puts a mic under his mouth. So in that sense, leverage is not on the Jays side. They can obviously keep him and use him in 2020, and maybe work on an extension at that point, but I don't think the Jays have any plans on doing that and other teams know it.
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Yeah whatever leverage the Jays could have had was destroyed by Stro going public. Everyone knows they are trading him.
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Yup that makes more sense. No way Tulo would have retired if it meant giving up a penny of his contract. Too good to be true. Oh well. Traded for in July 2015, replacement level by 2017, retired by 2019. Wow.
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That's the best news I took out of that. Floor they are comfortable with, offers increasing, and Yankees out of it? Sounds good to me.
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Tulo retires. What does that mean regarding what the Jays owe him?
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https://nypost.com/2019/07/25/where-yankees-fit-as-marcus-stromans-value-skyrockets/
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I'm a fan of Tony Kemp. Bring him in.
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Did you turn back into Brownie and tell yourself that you have mentioned this same point already, therefore are disqualified from ever bringing it up again, even if weeks or months (or years) have passed? That's the real question that needs to be addressed. And I doubt the difference in the two numbers is that much. Even Stroman is not so much of an egomaniac that he's going to want numbers that the market is not seeing. If anything he is probably asking for something similar to what Corbin got (6/140). I doubt the Jays number is any less than 5/80, if it is, then obviously they have no shot.
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Bautista himself said he would defy aging curves. I don't think fans were expecting him to. Stroman could blow is arm out tomorrow, that's how unpredictable pitchers are, but age 28 and expecting a few more good/3 WAR seasons is not outlandish, IMO.
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Stroman for Frazier would be horrendous, but if we trade with the Yankees, that's going to be the piece coming back. Cashman has plotted this for months. Whoever he gets, Frazier is going the other way. Hope it's not Stroman, unless he is willing to attach Deivi (he won't).
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GDT.. Indians @ Blue Jays 3/3.. Bieber vs Stroman 7:07pm
glory replied to gruber92's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Font only pitches well when he's wearing a Rays uniform. -
GDT.. Indians @ Blue Jays 3/3.. Bieber vs Stroman 7:07pm
glory replied to gruber92's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Wouldn't surprise me if Montoyo lets him face one more batter and then bringing Hudson on for the top of the lineup. -
GDT.. Indians @ Blue Jays 3/3.. Bieber vs Stroman 7:07pm
glory replied to gruber92's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
No one warming up in the pen. Damn, stop letting Montoyo think for himself. -
If the Jays make that deal (hope they don't), I'd look to flip both of them.