He's also projected to be at 2.9 war this year, what was he the previous 2 years? Again, you are arguing with yourself, I am not saying he's garbage, that would be retarded. I am factoring in his age and trade value. If you read my posts, I am talking about how the time has come to trade him, I don't care what his wrc+ is, it won't matter when the Jays don't make the playoffs again. It's time to trade him to a contender so the Jays can retool.