BigCecil

Love it. Let someone else over pay for Correa, Springer and Cole "core". Bring up Peña.

Even the Padres rolled out 3 guys for 3 IP throwing between 99-101 routinely with filthy breaking balls to close the LAD game last night. We have a lot of work to do this off season.

Tapia definitely has that.

History making game here. Astonishing. I'd like to see Boyd give it up. For a few reasons. Not the least of which his comments about the Jays when he left the Jays.

Its a fair point, but I kind of like this razors edge stuff. Hot team and some luck and anything can happen. Agree its harder to fluke it out in 7, but this is pretty exciting.

Man, thats playoffs. Bye bye Braves. A hot PHI team flipped the script on 21 Braves. I dont like them but congrats to PHI. Hoping HOU finishes off SEA today.

Put balls in play and good things happen. ...CLE team's MO in 2022. Clase back in. So nasty.

You're grumpy. I had to step away mostly for a few days to grieve our loss - having irrational thoughts and the like lol. When I open the Board site now, I'm just still glad it still exists (my wife isn't). Thankfully Hurl is earning off us so he can stomach the disdain he has for posters who aren't all in on the FO and 183 W's over the last two years.

Ya. They said goodbye to Springer, Correa and Cole. Smart FO building a sustainable winner. Interesting you don't get many runs off of Castillo but 3/4 runs today came from Tucker and Alvarez - impact LHH bats in the line up. They have a lot of balance.

100%. And unlike posters on a message board the FO and ownership invest millions in that analysis. They hand pick the people who gather than information to make recommendations. They make decisions based on this vis a vis investments. Just like any business would. The reality is not every leader would make the same investment based on the analysis and who did the analysis. They are paid to make these bets and they live or die by them. At the end of the day the FO is responsible for the results of the business. Is it always fair? No. Ross fired Charlie? Was that totally fair? Probably not. I agree playoff performance is not the best or only metric for evaluating the FO and their performance. But it is one metric of value and that success does tend to have a disproportionate positive impact on the business performance, for obvious reasons (unless you are the Rays fanbase). I don't buy the young team or bad luck rationale for convenient "everything is awesome" analysis of this FO performance. OTOH I'm not in the hang 'em high camp for Atkins either. 2023 is a big year. I think other teams like HOU and ATL are doing a much better job of building a sustainable winner than Ross is at this point. He has traded a lot of our top prospects (at the time) and he has spent a boat load of signing money on deals for Kooch, Roark, Grichuk, Aging brittle Springer, Ryu who knows, Berrios ??. Some have worked out better than others. I think thats normal, but it its a informing metric for judging his performance. Vlad was gifted from AA and Gausman and Manoah have been gems so far for this FO. Lets seen what happens.

Clevinger really has never been the same since he got hurt. Lost some V. LAD squaring up balls.

JD pimping it a la Jays style. You're out! That one's a classic.

They did. Houston and Atlanta building sustainable winners. It's good business. Jays still have a lot of work to do to get there. Houston is fine to let Correa and Springer go for someone else to pay. They are still slaying. Alex is actually a ninja now. He has already won and Atlanta looks competitive for a long run with his market or under market lock downs. Regardless of post season outcomes.

Ha. I felt Atkins did better in the Gausman/Ray saga from the start and still feel that way. Ray is solid but man when he misses with 93/94, or even the slider, it gets CRUSHED.

He hit one 114 just before that. Alvarez is a beast.

6/115 and he plays OF ...not great but he does.

Holy f***!!!! tight pants got lit again!!! Ill find solace in that as a little poetic justice. 6/115 and he plays the OF (sort of). Made a catch tonight.

Ray vs Alvarez. Love post season. Well not a couple days ago...but now.

I know bud. I was just messing with you. I don't Mets fans feel great this morning either. lol. tough one last night for them in their house.

The finishing blow by Soto last night was classic. He was trying to take Diaz right there and he did. Tough year for the Mets too in the end. Spend a lot. Lead the Division the whole year right until the end. Lose the wildcard at home. Man, love this sport but it can be brutal.

Too hot right now. Temper says yes, but feel like he needs another year or two. Shorter leash. He has played his fire the manager card already. I'm a Shapiro fan for sure. Stays where he is. Agree with BTS. Not seeing anything other than a window team yet. No sustainable winner like ATL and others are putting together. Lots of top picks went for Berrios and Chappy and aside from maybe Moreno and Ricky the farm is not overly inspiring.

Ya, I'm not s***ing on him. Agreed. Just discussing if he had his good FB and % slider use. He also pitched the night before and was at like 25 pitches when he gave up the winning run. If he has 99 maybe he doesn't throw the #9 a slider and maybe its a K - no bloop. He is allowed to be tired. Munoz didnt look his sharpest either. If the ump doesn't f*** that ball 4 call and Kirk walks who knows what might have happened. My bud just texted me from TOR. Bandwagon casual there for the games. Got on the elevator this morning at the Ritz Carlton with a bunch of the Mariners and said they were "pretty chill guys". Easy to be chill when you just come back from 7 down for a W and series win in TOR. I hope the Astros crush them.

Becoming too predictable. I just don't think he has his good V or command of his FB last night. Getting tired too. On the winning run he had just given up a 2B on a Center cut 96. You know Frazier was sitting on a juicy first pitch slider and he caught it hanging. Didn't miss.

"Yay". Mentally I combine yesterday in totality with missing the playoffs by 1 game in '21, in large part due to the pen. I watched '87. Slow moving demise of strung out pain. Watched some rough post season losses to KC in George Brett days and to OAK. We saw Nelson behind the plate vs KC in 2015 Gm 6 and what he did. That hurt. But yesterday was calamitous. It felt self inflicted. Tops it all. How it went down with Vlad's last AB GB and Tapia making the last out was fitting for '22. Tapia is exactly the type of depth this team didn't need for 500 PAs of chase and horrible D. Putting him and his 9th percentile jump in LF when we had JBJ to move around out there at 8-1, is inexcusable. Our pen was ok with Pop and Bass adds but really....it's still comparatively mediocre for a deep run. It comes into clear light when you flip around watching all the post season games and the flaming filth most teams are rolling out routinely juxtaposed against Romano at times struggling to top 96 and flipping endless sliders (to their 9 hitter) as a result. Yesterday was a dagger to the heart, in front a packed house at home. It lays naked the laughable nature of the "this will be the movie" and "this is my house" talk. It makes it the worst loss in our history as a result.

Probably not as bad as us because they are playing again today and still have a chance to move on.