Olerud363

Deadpool - I appreciate your hard work. I am in the same boat in that I've said ridiculous things, argued with people, called them incompetent, they've called me the same... all in good fun I assume, and I've never got banned. However it seems others aren't getting the same leash... every once and a while I'll be participating in a conversation or thread that seems innocent to me and it disappears. That doesn't quite sit right.

It's more effective to talk about the issue then just have the comment disappear. I already feel respect for you, and next time I hear comments about FASD I'll remember this conversation and I'll be more sensitive to the issue. If the comment just went away I wouldn't of had a chance to think about this issue.

This is why people hate big government. If 'the people' were insulted by your comment they should rip you, slam your integrity and shame you. But FREE SPEECH means it is not the governments job to shut you up, it is the people's job to deal with. Is this board for the people, run by the invisible hand, with government intervention only in them most grievous situations?? Is it the people's board, for the common Blue Jays fan who just want to have their say no matter their temperament, quirkiness or grammatical correctness??? Or is it a Government dominated institution run like something out of North Korea??

I remember there was a slightly entertaining thread about Eziquiel being an awful player... some probably thought it was stupid, some thought it was kind of funny, it was kindof true in ways too, because he got sent down soon after. It was deleted for no reason at all. I didn't start the thread but after that I cried a tear for the board... No humor or entertaining banter allowed here!

I doubt it. With the shifts that have come in the last 2 or 3 years the Murph philosophy would be worse then ever. The team already hits for murph era 230ish homer power. You would lose a lot of walks and singles... see Astros, Houston for an example of what shift era Murph team stats might look like.

There seems to have always been a debate about hitting philosophy. Patient vs. Aggressive, and 'pull the ball' or 'all-fields'. It would be interesting to see the data, but it seems the Jays have gone from "aggressive-pull", to "patient-all-fields" from the early to present AA tenure. I would think that Goins would be told he has 15 homer potential, told to be aggressive, pull the ball and hit .220 with 10 walks and 10 homers under the Cito/Murph regime... but who knows, is it that simple?? Obviously there is more to it, but "patient-all-fields" is a good high level philosophy.

Kevin Pillar is the white Devon White TRUE (at least close enough)

The Josh Donaldson trade could backfire FALSE

Ryan Goins is a player TRUE

The Blue Jays will not win the East until they have an Ace TRUE!!!! - We were all right-- About everything

The Blue Jays will not win the East until they have an elite Yankess/RedSox Style on base percentage offense TRUE

We will win this year - FALSE We will win next year - FALSE We will win the year after that - TRRRUEEEE!!!!

This team couldn't of done any worse given the talent. They were 15-27 in 1 run games, 99 "pythogaran wins". They aren't magically winning more games then the stats predict. Now maybe certain players are playing better because of chemistry?? I reject that theory. If guys are playing better it's because of intelligence a.k.a. good advice. It's a little different then chemistry. Maybe Bautista helps Donaldson prepare for each at bat, maybe the veterans are helping Goins be more patient. I mean Jeff Franceur might be the nicest guy ever.. but if he was the clean up hitter and leader and he said "hey guys, I think you gotta be aggressive, you just gotta swing early in the count cause it might the best pitch you see".. he might be the greatest guy but he's giving bad advice.

Exactly.

Based on the illusion of momentum. If the Yanks win tonight they have a 40% chance of taking the division. It becomes a coin flip and the coin could flip the wrong way. Does any one know how the division odds would change based on a Yankees/Jays win?? My guess is if the Jays win they have an 80% chance of winning the division, if they lose 60%....

It is the most important ever played for any franchise, in any sport in the history of planet earth. If we win the Jays are the team of destiny, holding an insurmountable 3.5 game lead, led by Ace David Price, and the best young pitcher in the game, the Stro-show. The increased revenue from the playoffs will enable us to sign Price, Stro-show will have proven himself healthy and the best young guy in baseball. The record over the next 4 years will be 400-248 If we lose the Jays have collapsed, sold the farm for nothing. Stro show will have proven he doesn't have what it takes, the Bird and Severino will lead the yanks to a subway series against Syndergard and the Mets, Price will join the Yankees next year, and the jays record over the next 4 years will be 248 and 400. It is a 150 game swing over 4 years, a franchise and life changiing game for every single one of us... this is it, this is everything, this will determine not only this pennant race, but the next 4 or 5. My god... if we lose I will burn every signle piece of Blue Jays crap I have and never watch a baseball game again in my life. If we win I will be partially confident that everything will be ok (but as soon as we lose one to Tampa Bay I will panic again).

???? whuttt???? Only in retrospect... Every world series game is meaningful. To put it in perspective leading the world series 3-1 is like having a 2 game lead with 3 to play... of course it is meaningful Leading 3-2 is a 1 game lead with 2 to play.... Losing tonight will mean we have 1.5 game lead with 10 to go... losing game 6 would mean facing Schilling with no tomorrow.

You're ussually one of the most level headed and positive guys on the board. If you think he is done, he is probably done.

I really don't understand this line of thought. Price and Sale are about even in the advanced stats... I checked today and it seemed it was 6-6 on fangraphs. How could the tie breaker not go to the guy with the best traditional stats leading his team to the playoffs?? Even if Sale pulls slightly ahead in advanced stats, it shouldn't matter unless it's overwhelming. I mean if in the end Sale has 7.3 WAR, 13-10 3.35, and Price is 7.0 WAR 19-5 2.35 leads Jays to division... it is still Price. The WAR systems have a level of error... they are not God. They should be used to detect clear differences (IE Cabrerra vs. Trout 2013) that are not obvious... but when it's close using the traditional stats and the story is still fine.

i figured I'd see something like this... Nice post

Do you guys ever see DirectTV commercials?? I am guessing not in Rogers Land. The premise is some famous guy gets Direct TV, then a wimpy version of him get cable. There is one with Tom Brady where Tom Brady get Direct TV, and "Bad Comedien" Tom Brady gets cable, check them out on YouTube or something. They should do one with Joe Carter I'm early 90s Joe Carter, and I have Direct TV -- Touch em all Joe! Oh yeah... that moment looks great in High Def on the MLB classics channel. I'm mid 90s Joe Carter, and I have cable -- cables out right now so I'm watching some VHS of the 96 season, here we are playing the tigers, trying to get 70 wins.. oooohhh that was in the dirt, I swung anyway... Is that Olerud on the bench?? Or Green?? I don't know, they look the same on VHS.

Carter gets s*** on because he is the central figure in the collapse of 94-97. Jays played carter in 99% of the games those years... they signed Carter to an extension for 97. He had negative WAR those years. Meanwhile -- they let Molitor go, they let White go, they let Alomar go, they traded Olerud, they occasionally sat Olerud and Green agains righties so awful players (Carter, Brumfield, burnt out Ruben Sierra) so awful players could play.

by the way --- the event I refer to is Cito Benching Olerud for Brumfield against a righty... for year Cito benched Olerud for horrible players against lefties... this was dumb... but at least followed some kind of platoon logic. But in 96 and 97 he benched Olerud for righties once and a while, Brumfield, and Carter sometimes (when Carter had to play 1st or DH). It was very strange. Olerud was a 5-8 WAR player in his prime, when he played every day and wasn't given awful coaching. Thus the curse of Brumfield. Paul Beeston was partially responsible for this... so I am not sure if the curse will get lifted or not this year, since Beeston is still here.

85 - Watched the playoffs 87 - Watched the last game of the season against tigers 88 - started watching regularily, they weren't really in it that year. 10 games back most of the season 89-93 - each of these years the Jays weren't eliminated until their last game of the season. 94-97 - Cito benches Olerud for Brumfield, very strange event that sends shockwaves through the space time continuum and prevents Jays from winning... 98-2015- there are many false gods (Tim Johnson, JPR, Godfrey, AA?) but nobody can fix things Late July 2015 - fixed?? Sure looks that way... we will see how powerful the curse of Brumfield is...

Interesting comment by Buck last night. He said the coaching staff goes over the strike zone percentages for the opposing starter every night... that is they take a look at all his pitches and tell the hitters the percentage of time it is in the strike zone. High for fastballs, low for everything else everything. I think Buck gave a stat that some guys slider is only in the strike zone 20% of the time... something like that. Anyway the Jays coaches, Jacoby and the rest make sure the Jays hitter know this stuff. It's hard to recognize a slider, let alone recognize if it is a good one (at least for a Goins, the great hitters are better)... so I wonder if the Jays are coaching guys to just auto-take if they recognize an off speed pitch, from a pitcher who doesn't get them in the zone.