Dick_Pole

9-4 65 RF 50 RA I'm banking on one of the Detroit games to get rained out and I trot to an easy victory.

a. See every King post on this subject. b. It's a figure of speech, I don't give that much of a s***, but I do get a minor laugh when "Team Sheryl Ring" or whatever doesn't get what they want. These type of people are a cancer and a line in society needs to be drawn where they are continuously shown as outcasts. Hoping Bauer gets justice, whatever form that takes, is a perfectly fine stance. Getting a boner over this situation, where there are no winners, just losers, is weird.

Now I want Bauer to pitch again just to piss off Trudeau supporters who get boners from thinking he won't pitch again.

Very much a push versus pull audience reveal. This tells us that a lot of his radio listeners just needed some white noise on the drive home.

Are you forgetting about the rookie who had at best a 50% chance of seeing any MLB time this year possibly being the Jays best starter right now? You gotta see glass half full with pitching prospects.

I guess small sample sizes only apply when it doesn't fit the narrative you want to tell. To just slot these guys in there and assume the bullpen is elite is a stretch. Better, most likely. Hopefully. Elite? No. Although I hope the Jays get lucky and they all do perform at an elite level for 2.5 more months.

Huh? Pearson, the man of 20 crappy career MLB innings. Merryweather, the 29 yo with 17 pretty good career MLB innings. Soria, the pitcher on the tail end of his career that hasn't been elite in a couple of years. And Mayza, who has had one decent year and has been alright this year. Adding these four isn't going to take this bullpen to borderline elite. The best we can hope for is enough live bodies that some combination of them will lead to an average to slightly better than average pen from this point forward.

Let's put this into perspective. Masai Ujiri is pretty much gifted the title of Toronto pro sport's smartest exec by those too young to remember Pat Gillick (Ujiri is a strong #2 behind him imo). And Ujiri has had some doozies when it comes to doling out bad contracts to free agents. Even the Siakam extension makes me wince a bit. So nobody is perfect. If you exclude Semien, this regime has a winning record when it comes to FA signings or extensions and if you include Semien it's not even close.

This off day discussion thread is not as good as previous ones. Though Laika did recover it a bit with reasoned, contrary analysis. If this and the Morales and Roark contracts end up being the three worst doled out by this regime, Jays fans have NOTHING to complain about.

I think the issue is that his face is just naturally Fat Albert-like. It creates the illusion that he is fatter than he is. I mean, what kind of granny or auntie wouldn't want to pinch that boy's cheeks then cook up a lasagna for him?

Answer is Rays. s*** franchise, s*** fanbase, and those Poindexters find new ways to make baseball shittier by gaming the system for a couple extra wins in a year. I'd rank them most hated to least: Rays Yankees Red Sox Orioles Astros (not because of the trash can thing, but because of the lame intentional tanking 10 years ago that really started the increase in that trend) Rangers Browns Royals White Sox Angels Mariners Twins Tigers A's (I will never hate this team because of that sweet colour scheme)

Twice.

Ryu/Berrios/Ray will be the starter going 7 innings. Manoah will close it out. Any other scenario likely means the Jays got bombed anyways. I expect once this 6 pitcher rotation nonsense ends, Manoah will go to the pen to save innings and to stabilize it. At least that's what I hope will happen. People keep mentioning Pearson like he will be a saviour. Dude has barely pitched at the MLB level and so far he has sucked at it. I know small sample size but when fighting for the playoff lives you can't just assume success on that.

Hey well at least he delayed his HOF eligibility by a couple of years. Buys him some more time for the writers to see his case.

Everyone who posts here is just assumed to have a mental disorder.

Looking at the team-by-team results will give you ulcers. https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2021-schedule-scores.shtml Red Sox 6-9. 87 runs scored versus 67 against. Like, how? Flip that record to match the run differential and it's a very different playoff race right now.

That's how little respect the Royals get. The first time Guerrero sits. I hope he gets a pinch hitting opportunity I was banking on him going after Ripken's streak.

I guess it depends on what's the variance in win probability for a Stripling versus Manoah start and compare it to win probability in close games and having Manoah in the pen as an option. I honestly have no idea but would hope the team has some people who can do those types of calculations to make that decision. Ideally between the acquisitions and injuries coming back, multiple RP can stand up and fill that roll instead.

Letterman's top 10 reasons for signs that your MLB career is over...

At this point I'd be fine with Berrios, Ryu, Ray, Stripling and mystery meat as the starting five. Put Manoah and Pearson in the pen. Limiting their innings being one factor and team need being the second. I know that 99% of the time a starting pitcher is more valuable than a reliever, but for THIS particular team it's gotten so desperate that the downgrade in using Matz over Manoah is more than offset by having ideally lights out guys in the pen available in every close game.

20 years ago, the "dumb casual" fan would have been fine trading unheard of prospects for veteran players. Now with so much access to MiLB/prospect info online, the pendulum has swung the other way. It's all about mindless prospect hoarding for....reasons? Some rag ranks a player in the top 100 and all of a sudden he becomes untouchable. This thread is about 60/30/10 split of people who hate the trade, are kind of neutral or see both sides to it, and like it. But of the f***ing dumbest comments in here, 100% of them belong to the hate category. Can you people who hate it so much even explain exactly why you hate it? Ineligible submissions: 1. "Cuz Dickey" 2. "bUt tHe DoDgErS dId" 3. "prospects are good, trying to go for a playoff spot is bad" The Jays likely overpaid. But in the context of this day, maybe they didn't. Also any player with a slash line where the OBP is bigger than the SLG reminds me too much of Otis Nixon. I don't need to see that s***. Now let's look at it the other way. This FO has confirmed they are willing to do what it takes to attack. Will it work in 2021? Maybe not. But it could work in the coming seasons. The Jays are recognizing that the "contention window" has opened and are attacking early. A crappy FO would have let the Rays pick up Berrios and then the Jays are way in the hole for 2022 trying to pick up 2-3 SP. Prospects can always be replenished. The Jays have locks on practically all their position players for the next 3-4 years. A good draft next year can net them a Martin or two or better waiting in the wings by 2025 when they might actually need them. For all the whining about 2013's screwup, it only took two years for some of the best Blue Jays memories for people under the age of 35 to occur.

See, this trade just instantly got better! Barely half an hour in and the team keeps winning.

As a penny stock trader, I have learned that when the crowd shits all over a stock and whines like a little f***ing girl about it, time to buy. When they praise it like it's the greatest thing on earth, time to sell. Welcome to Toronto Scottie Barnes and Jose Berrios. f*** off Austin Martin and Jalen Suggs. Professionals who get paid handsomely to know 1,000x more than the riff-raff fans determined that it must be this way.

LOL at the whining over picking up pitchers via free agency. Berrios for Martin and SWR > Gerrit Cole for $350 million. Also, didn't the Jays just pick up a guy in Ryu via that route?

The trade is an overpay. But we don't know what the Rays were offering. If they pulled the trigger how much whining there would be from fans about not doing anything. This is more about maximizing 2022's potential as it is about 2021. Imagine if the Rays got Berrios and we head into the 2022 offseason with the Jays needing to add 2-3 arms just to get to break even. That would torpedo the 2022 season during the "window of contention". It's not always about comparing what the Dodgers did. Scherzer's NTC significantly limits his trade value. Those are just the breaks. Just be happy NHL players like this place so at least the city gets first dibs on players like John Tavares lol