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Is this team really set up well for term success? C'mon man. After 2025, things look pretty bleak once Bo and Vladdy leave, and with an aging roster, unless this team adds some high end prospects during the draft. The farm system isn't that great or flooding with talent knocking on the door. If it was, we wouldn't be seeing Mitch White start games here, or guys like Tapia getting 400ABs last season. Again, Atkins has done a solid job here during his tenure and has built competitive teams, but for some reason when I question or criticize him on some things, posters like Brownie19 go crazy. Look back at my posts! The way Brownie19 responds to my posts, he twists everything around and makes it seem like I'm 100% against Atkins which I'm not. The offseason before the 2021 season was excellent, yes! I never said anything bad about the moves Atkins made. I praised his moves signing Semien, trading for Ray, and Matz. Again, go find those posts if I did. I'm criticizing the fact that with a great roster, he never took fully advantage of it that season. Yes he traded for Berrios and signed him to an extension - I praised Atkins for that. Could have he done more? Yes considering they missed the Postseason by ONE game. That 2021 team was probably the best team we saw on paper and probably will be during Atkins tenure. AA had to make the Postseason without the extra WC spots, so yeah he had a tougher task those years. Jays made it in 2020, but 8 teams in each league. In 2021, they missed by one game. In 2022, they won WC1. This season, they're fighting for WC3. Out of those three years, they never won a Postseason game yet. Let's hope that changes this season and in 2024 and 2025!

I'm buying you a Cody Bellinger jersey!

Go back listening to Mike Wilner podcasts you imbecile

Yes I was. You said the same thing, but two years later you bash me for saying the same damn thing you did. Smart ass!

Laika was saying Atkins went all-in at the trade deadline when I criticized that Atkins could have done more to add to the pen in-season and I responded saying well if he went all in, it was a disappointing result. Again, like I said before maybe shouldn't have used the word "failed" but alright. I never criticized Atkins about his offseason acquisitions. I actually praised them FFS. I said it was a shame that he never complimented them more in-season or at the deadline especially considering how great that 2021 team was.

You're insufferable. One of the biggest whiny posters on this board!

Hire him as the hitting coach.

Vlad has sucked this year Jay, accept the facts!

I took DeJong in the HR contest, lets go!

What? Lmao

Sucks the Jays have to face both Wheeler and Nola FFS. Hope we can take at least one!

Ah but for me saying that, I get attacked by the Terminator, Brownie19 and others.

Hey Laika, wasn't I saying the same thing in the other thread? Funny.

I said in the other thread that it was a disappointment that the Jays missed the Postseason in 2021 by one game because Atkins failed to address the bullpen in-season and I was being attacked left, right and centre by the Mike Wilners of this board for saying so, and you agreed with them. Yet after the 2021 season, you specifically blamed the shortcomings of the bullpen as to why the team missed the Postseason. But hey, attack me and say I got rekt for bringing up that point in a recent discussion, while you said the same thing two years ago lol.

Even in 2022, you stated the bullpen sunk the Jays! Rekt again haha!

Lmao even you criticized the bullpen in 2021 as a reason why they missed the Postseason. Rekt!

Again, responding to your comment that they did go for it in 2021. If they did, and missed the Postseason by one game, isn't that a disappointing result? Sorry maybe I shouldn't use the word "fail" as that was harsh. But yeah when all was said and done the Jays didn't get to the Postseason in 2021 after going for it!

You're going to be Rekt in a couple of minutes when I pull up one of your old posts about the 2021 team haha

AA left them with an old expensive team? What do you think Atkins will leave the next GM once he leaves lmao? Atkins has signed some big contracts as well and some of those right now aren't looking like they will age well. It's hilarious how so many of you s*** over AA while he was here. He was a far superior GM and baseball mind during his tenure with the Jays than Atkins has been so far. This Atkins core hasn't even won a Postseason game. There is still 2023, 2024 and 2025 so yeah Atkins still has time and if the Jays win a World Series during that time, Atkins will go down as one of the best GMs next to Pat Gillick for sure. So far though, it's been mediocre results. Also, how is the current farm system for the Jays? All I heard at the trade deadline was the Jays don't have the pieces to pull this trade or that trade off. As well, you were having a stroke when I suggested the Jays look at Arenado as their long term 3B solution, saying the Jays already are near their payroll threshold. So yeah, Atkins hasn't put together an expensive team. Give me a break. Where did I ever say anything bad about those contracts handed out by Atkins? Again because I question a couple decisions or things the front office has done, I get painted by Brownie19 as someone who thinks everything Atkins does is bad lol. I praised Atkins on the Ray, Matz, Semien signings, and even the Berrios trade. I was also one of the few posters on here last season who said I wouldn't give up on Berrios right yet, when a lot of posters on here were jumping ship after his disastrous 2022 season. Go look it up. All I said was the Jays had an amazing window in 2021 to do something special and that it was frustrating the team never made the Postseason and took advantage of that opportunity. What is wrong with that? Could have Atkins solidified the roster more in 2021 - yes he could have. And yes missing out the Postseason by one game because the FO failed to make a couple more upgrades is disappointing. The 2021 team was probably the best on paper and had the best opportunity to go to a World Series.

I did for just offering rational criticism or questioning some moves the FO made? Seriously, you're one of the most insufferable posters on this board. It's hilarious how you always attack me when I offer constructive criticism or question something. You get triggered so easily FFS!

Gonna go with DeJong tonight

Lmao I knew that would trigger you. Pitch forks already out! I'm done talking about Atkins and the front office with you like I said in the other thread. Definitely will talk about other baseball related things or discussions in other off topic threads, but I'm done engaging with you when it comes to Atkins and the front office.

Yeah Jays got lucky with the signings of Belt and KK and the Merrifield trade. Imagine if two of them or all three of them never panned out and went the other way, which was possible given their age and previous seasons. Great patch up and value signings during the offseason. Sometimes you hit on them, sometimes you don't. Like you said, it's been the core pieces who have really held this team back. Guys like Springer, Vladdy, Kirk, and Varsho. If this season is a lost season for all of them, the Jays better hope at least 2 or 3 of them next season turn things around or else it's going to be another frustrating year.

My bad, he's still under control for 2024. Still, Jays will have a lot of areas on the roster they'll need to add to. Won't be cheap. 4 out of 9 spots in their starting lineup (DH/2B/3B and LF) as well as some other spots mentioned before, plus raises for other players who are arbitration eligible.