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f*** I got Richards in my fantasy league

Pederson or Teo would be great. Would probably prefer Teo in LF. Pederson needs a partner to platoon with.

Schneider for sure at 2B. I would have Horwitz compete for a spot, but doesn't hurt to go after other targets again similar to Belt. Having guys in AAA ready to be called up in case of injuries isn't a bad thing.

Blue Jays have one of the best bullpens in baseball. We'll be fine!

I hope they use Yimi Garcia again today and he gets a chance to redeem himself!

100%

Beta's are running this team, that's why!

If they move Vlad down, he'll likely get all pissy and throw a tantrum.

Why is Vladdy only at 2 pts for the HR contest? Seriously you gotta be giving better odds considering the season he's had.

My favourite Blue Jays homer coming out in full force with pitch forks ready to defend this team, coaching staff and front office at all costs! Give the Blue Jays Discussion Thread a read, you'll have a field day!

I remember in April there were some games where the Jays had some gutsy wins and pulled out wins in games they had no business of winning. I said in one of the threads that these are exactly the types of games this team to needs to win. Gave me a sense this season was going to be different. Crazy how this team since April has only been 56-53.

Yeah the team needs to keep 85-90 win seasons sustainable over the next 3-5 years in order for Shapiro's business model to succeed. After 2024 or 2025 for that matter, not sure what the crystal ball holds. There definitely was a lot of buzz with the new renovations such as the rooftop patios and there will be buzz next April as well with the new Club Infield 100 section. Mostly among the casuals who never even watch baseball. It could very well be a short-lived fad, especially if the team starts to have a couple 70 win seasons afterwards. Also, casual fans might not be able to justify the expensive prices if the team is not competitive.

It's very possible the Jays under Atkins might miss the Postseason in 2 of the last 3 years during what was considered the prime in their competitive window. It's fair to say thus far Atkins and management have been mediocre when you look at the bigger picture of the past three seasons. If the Jays don't have success, Atkins and the FO wear some of it as does any front office. The window seems like it's narrowing more and more with an aging expensive roster along with Bo's free agency looming, especially since there really isn't much coming up through the farm system. The Rays don't have the payroll as the Blue Jays have. The Rays front office has to work within their confines and resources they have. Considering all those factors, they have done an exceptional job at putting together competitive teams each season. While they haven't won a World Series yet and have had some early Postseason exits, they do make the Postseason at least and put themselves in a good position to have success. Their scouting and player development is on another level. I wouldn't compare them with Atkins and the Blue Jays at all. From a business perspective, Shapiro has done a fantastic job with the team. He's changed the in-game experiences at the Rogers Centre, which has definitely helped with attendance and team revenue. He's also raised the damn prices of everything haha but oh well. The Jays are raking in every season. Shapiro has put together a very successful business model for Rogers. Like you said, something does need to change. You can't keep the status quo this offseason. I still think Atkins deserves a chance to right the ship for 2024, though he's on a very short leash.

That has been one of my criticisms of Atkins thus far - he's built some competitive teams on paper but has failed to take them to the next level during his tenure here. I don't place the entire blame on him obviously, but we're talking about from 2021 to possibly 2024 without even winning a single Postseason game. Even during a time when it's easier to make the Postseason. At least when AA was here, while he wasn't perfect, he did put together a team capable of winning a World Series in 2015, and came pretty darn close. The 2021 team Atkins put together IMO was the best, but yeah we all know how that story ended. Wasted opportunity that season, but I know some posters on here don't like when that is brought up.

I still have some hope as well. Rangers are in free fall from the looks of it. Jays have a favourable schedule and control their own destiny. This team could get into the Postseason and do damage with their rotation and deep bullpen. The window is narrowing every season. We could be heading into 2024 without this team winning a single Postseason game. Put that into perspective.

While I place majority of the blame on the players, Atkins and the FO get some blame. They're not as good as other posters on here make them out to be when you look at the bigger picture. We're possibly looking at heading into 2024 without this group even winning a Postseason game. So far the results have been mediocre with this management group. Those are the facts.

Yimi Garcia not being used in the proper role. Shouldn't be coming on with runners on base, protecting leads. He's a middle reliever at best who should be starting a clean inning, in the 6th or 7th inning with a 4-run lead. I don't want Garcia pitching in any high leverage situations.

Someone should buy tickets behind home plate to boo and heckle Vladdy!

There is something fundamentally wrong with this roster and group overall. It's been super frustrating, but serious changes will have to be made this offseason to the roster and coaching staff. This team and FO just aren't as good as some people think. Another wasted opportunity in 2023 from the looks of it unfortunately.

With the Rangers literally in free fall, if the Jays don't take the 3rd WC spot especially with one of the easiest schedules, what a huge disappointment.

Jordan f***ing Lyles with his 6.51 ERA shut down Boston last night haha. Love it!

I even recall at the end of last season with the Mets, Max wasn't 100%. He pitched awful against San Diego in the WC.