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swinging harder and faster doesn't necessarily produce any better. I know I've had my golf swing analyzed and the more I tried to rush it the worse it got. I'm assuming that it would hold for baseball swings.

Gotta agree with that, his physical tools are off the chart but his mental is 5 cents. I think that's why I find him infuriating.

can you edit the picture and put donkey features on it?

This bullpen is just like the pre-1985 bullpens. To put it nicely: unreliable and disappointing.

actually I think we could get some kind of lottery for Turner.

Normally I'm in favour of a firesale if there's somebody who can come in and do better, whether it's immediately or in the longer term. This year I don't think there's anyone who can do any better at any position. We have maybe one starter in Macko since Ricky T is so injured. Martinez might be available the last days of September, but that's it.

If Votto can still produce, I'd keep him at platoon DH, backup 1b. The big "IF" is if he can still produce. I'd start cutting Turner's time and consider trading him for a lottery pick along with KK. Our minor league system has never been so empty. I never liked the idea of Vogelbach, he couldn't do anything besides the odd poke.

What situation would be better: 1. Votto at 1b, Vladdy at 3b, Turner at DH, Clement/Barger/IKF at bench 2. Votto at DH, Vladdy at 1b, Turner at bench, Clement/Barger/IKF at 3b 3. Votto at bench (spot start), Vladdy at 1b, Turner at DH (spot start), Clement/Barger/IKF at 3b I'm thinking option 3 makes the most sense.

Okay so Jimenez gets his quick test to see if he's ready for the Majors and to replace Bo for the longer term.

I agree with your analysis but I think he hits better when batting behind better hitters. Some hitters can do well even with 8 other s***** hitters. He's not one of them.

Disagree. Semien set the tone in 2021.

I think the whole problem is that Vlad can't be the offensive leader of the team, he has to be #2 or 3 run producer. He would probably be amazing on the Yankees. He's got the abilities just not the head for it.

Great gif

I think you're right. I had the team closer to .500 I think. The pitching was really healthy and I thought there may be a decrease here. And as for the offense, I expected about the same as last year. I did not expect Bo to s*** the bed though.

Originally I thought Shatkins would finish the season but there's too much noise suggesting they may be the first out the door. I was not optimistic at the start of the season only because I tend to find that some rookies will get better, some older guys will get worse and the rest will be about the same. I figured Springer and KK would get worse (though not this bad) and the pitchers who were incredible last year would fall a bit more back to their expected average (which seems to be the case). When Shatkins said that crap about the players will all get better it was at that point that I lost confidence in him.

I read a lot of different opinions and writers, some I agree with, some I completely disagree with. In this case, I think the article reflects a common opinion that will have some impact on Rogers and what they'll do. You don't learn anything only reading the opinions of those with whom you agree. There was only one writer who I thought had no direct resources and made things up and thus didn't read his work -- Marty York. I used to read the posts of the guys that were in tune with the young Dominicans. A lot of what they wrote was ******** but they usually had a few facts of who's being signed and where they're going.

My point is more that it's getting around. Shapiro has to be answering to the board/Edward Rogers.

That was more why I posted it: it seems the discussion of how change is to be implemented is getting more wide-spread. Let's face it, a bunch of schlubs on a discussion board won't do it, but the larger media might. Brownie posts that he's a moron, but do you disagree with his article?

My comment is more on the amount he has to do in RF does not compare and is easier to perform.

A lot less than when he played CF.

Maybe his hitting has gone down the way his defense has gone down. He used to be a great CF. Now he's an ok RF. Back problems maybe? If so, he won't get better. Hope I'm wrong.

Springer's new name: TOAST

yeah, it's a ridiculous move. -leg problems -10 days off Leadoff is the worst place for him.

No, but I do support the analysis.

If the Jays were a stock, you would have sold long ago. And it’s not just the offence. It’s pitching, too. Last season, the Blue Jays had the second-best earned run average in the AL. Now they’re 11th. They gave up the seventh-most home runs, now only one team is worse than them. Last season, they were second in strikeouts. This year, 13th. Last season’s bullpen had an earned run average that ranked fifth-best. This year, it’s 12th, having given up the most home runs after being ninth-best last year. It’s hard to find a category of any kind that gives promise to this team, at this time, or next year, or the year after that — which is what the general manager’s job is all about. He is about today, tomorrow, next week and next year. You make a mistake, the great Pat Gillick told me many times, you fix the mistake. Everyone makes them. The best GMs find ways around them. Atkins has been on the job since 2016, when he inherited a playoff team from Anthopoulos. Putting that first season aside, the Blue Jays have been 555-555 in Atkins’ real time as GM. Those are the kind of numbers that got Ash and Ricciardi dismissed. Yes, the Jays won 91-92-and-89 games in recent seasons — impressive on the wins scale — but in each those years, they won zero playoff games. Zero. In his time with the Blue Jays, not giving him credit for the 2016 team, Atkins’ Blue Jays have not won a single playoff game. The Rays have won 16 in that time. The Yankees have won 21. The Red Sox 18. Explain that one, Ed Rogers. You too, Mark Shapiro. That’s your American League East. And that’s not including the suddenly overwhelming Baltimore Orioles. Atkins fired manager Charlie Montoyo in 2022 with a record of 46-42 because he didn’t like the way the Jays were playing. And it was the right call at the time.’ John Gibbons got fired the first time mid-season with a 35-39 record. Jimy Williams had the worst mark in 1989 with a 12-24 record. And Carlos Tosca was let go as manager when the Jays were 47-64 in 2004. No complaints about any of those decisions. The Jays are 35-43 on Tuesday afternoon, which isn’t terrible, but it is in their division. They are 16 games and 160 runs behind the Yankees, who finished seven games behind behind the Jays last season. They are 14 games and 161 runs behind the Orioles. They are 7.5 games out of the final wild-card spot — but with six teams ahead of them that makes it an impossible climb. Blue Jays officially hit rock bottom following meltdown in Beantown in loss to Red Sox Spencer Horwitz's two homers not enough as Blue Jays swept in back-to-back series They are, in a word, nowhere. And the trade deadline is approaching. If Atkins turned last year’s 89-win team into this, why should he be rewarded or even allowed to make deals that will shape the Jays future? Why not move on right now? The time is right if the season isn’t. The time to say goodbye to Ross Atkins was yesterday. ssimmons@postmedia.com twitter.com/simmonssteve