John_Havok

This is how I view sex. Just gotta get in and you have a decent shot at good things happening

As much as we disagree on many things, ..... I'll be vomiting right beside you too if thats present day value

That suggestion was, and still is, crazy - for numerous reasons.

They tried extending him numerous times, he didn't want to listen at that time. I don't get why so many people blame the FO completely that he's not signed when its exceptionally clear he was never going to sign any extension prior to FA unless it was a massive overpay. That's the FOs fault for not doing that? Really?

Its just like anything else advanced stat-wise. stuff+ isn't a be-all end-all measurement that guarantees anything. It's just an indicator that there's a really good upside potential IF they can get whatever switch that needs to flip, to flip. You'd rather start with a guy with massive stuff plus and take the chsnce on refining it overall a guy with like an 85 or 90 that had to perfect

career .729 OPS given up to the jays. 16 teams in the league do worse. Not exactly "Always pitching well" when youre giving up .729 OPS against as a reliever.

The contract and player also remain very tradeable if the need arises down the road.

He triggered his opt-out yesterday or the day before so I think today is the day the Jays have to decide to keep him or not.

Jerseys are the mid-1990's style... and he's a white dude that clearly thinks he can run bases somewhat effectively since he's carrying the gloves with him after getting on base... their IFs never stole much back then, so eliminate those white guys. That leaves white dude OFs that aren't named Shawn Green, because he's very easily recognized. so.... Rob Butler or Mike Huff.

Hypothetically... maybe? But his trade market would be very restricted.

That's pretty much the gamble right? All those arguments out there that seem to think because Vlad's uncertainty was impacting FA signings... do people think these other FA's are gonna be clamoring to sign here just because he might be locked up to a contract when anyone with a functional capacity of logic and reason can see his decline phase being not that far away? Maybe... maybe not. Who knows really.

I'm sure internally they have these numbers already, because if they don't they'd be morons, but yeah. Seeing trends of certain age groups of players will be great. Like does mean bat speed increase from say 20-24? then level out for a few years through age 30? when does it start to decline? By how much per season? And once there are enough baselines established and general decline trends found... are there different swing patterns or stances that maybe have a better natural resistance to those declines? Maybe not that you would change people's swings but you could identify players that have them naturally and target them preferentially or something. I dunno, the possibilities with these kinds of things are nearly endless.

Bat speed still 52nd percentile, 71.9 mph avg, down from 62nd percentile and 72.7 mph avg in 2023. Though there's nothing to compare with from previous seasons to see how far that may have declined from where it was in 2022 or 2021...the inference is fairly obvious.

Exactly. And for all the value the Rogers would squeeze out of him marketing-wise as the face of the franchise this year and in the next few, the second his on-field starts to wane, so does his marketing value. Right now it looks like Rogers is willing to get close enough to his demands that they feel he is worth it but... any higher and it's a massive gamble. Like you said, even as soon as 3 seasons from now, Vlad could be on his way to replacement level value on the field. It's one thing to sign your 25 year old 7 fWAR stud, know he's gonna be likely 6+ for the next 6ish years, and then deal with the inevitable 5.5-5-4.5-4-3-2-2-1.5-1 type of slide over the last 8...Vlad is looking like maybe he might be 4-5 fWAR at best over his next 3 seasons, with his downward trajectory starting sooner, and be more "off-a-cliff" rather than "slow decline".

If Varsho isn't ready amd they don't want to DH him, you definitely wouldn't stick a 25 year old with 5 total games of CF experience out there. If anything you'd throw Springer back in CF and Roden in RF or something. Or..just let the kid DH. No need to force him into one the most important defensive positions on the diamond.

My guess is it got removed because people were abusing it and just constant thumbs-down on any posts from certain people

Its interesting, 2 years ago the Jays couldn't find playable left handed hitters anywhere. Now they have at least 3 regulars in Taters, Giminez and Varsho, and 3 possible strong side options in Barger, Wagner and Roden, without clear paths to playing time for all of them. Granted, it's entirely probable 2 of the 3 will suck, and the 3rd winds up being a decent platoon option only, but... gotta figure it out somehow Clement has certainly earned his place initially but even his playing time is going to go south with Giminez in their at 2b. Basically it's Clement at 3b against any lefties, with Schneider maybe being 2b if they choose to sit Gimenez, though his career splits are virtually neutral. Against RHP...Barger/Wagner at 3b, Giminez at 2b, with Schneider as the PH, followed by Clement going in defensively. Roden's path to any playing time initially looks like LH DH. I find it unlikely the starting day lineup has Roden in the OF even if Varsho can't go by then. They'd probably keep Taters and Springer in LF/RF and Berroa or Lukes manning CF temporarily. Oh and then there's that Loperfido guy...make that 4 semi-regular LHH

Makes sense. Trying his foot at pitching would be pretty dumb.

I'm thinking pre-porky Cecil Fielder

Francis Little

Hard to tell without a side by side

So basically, he has carpal tunnel syndrome or, maybe more likely pronator syndrome. Kinesiology classes coming in clutch.

He does to an extent, but it's just because he doesn't care how much he spends when its on a guy he wants. He only cares about the money when it's not a true "Cohen target" like Alonso. He wanted Soto, he made sure he got him. Ohtani chose where he wanted to go, otherwise there's no doubt in my mind Cohen would have offered him more money. Cohen does what he does to just make sure only the biggest fish can compete with him and even the big fish don't even bother trying.

Even 25 each from Bo and Varsho along with 35 from Vlad and Santander... Kirk could hit around 15, Springer could still get 15-20. The real wildcards are the combo of Barger, Schneider, Wagner etc...Clement could feasibly run into 10...

Really feels like the obvious solution is to trade one of the Buffalo boys for a reliever. It just makes sense.