Laika
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lol, so they'd probably ask for Stroman, with a straight face.
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Yeah Sean Rodriguez would be a nice piece on almost every roster. People don't value versatility high enough. Rodriguez can cover almost every position on the diamond defensively with some level of competence.
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AJ Cole + !
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Nolin has been effective / very good in every minor league season with appropriate age vs. level all the way up the ladder. I'm pretty confident that he'll at least be a JA Happy #5 SP, if given the proper opportunity to make adjustments to the majors.
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Yup. The guy isn't a plus defender but he plays an average, maybe even slightly above average corner OF - that has some value. And he strikes out a fair bit but it's not at a Chris Carter level or anything. Here are some reports on Bruce from back in the day, to put his ceiling in perspective as he enters his physical prime (granted, his tools aren't the same as they used to be). 2008 BP 2007 BA
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They traded Tyler Skaggs and Adam Eaton for Trumbo, lmao. That wasn't a salary dump at all though. Sanchez is a lofty hypothetical for Bruce (unless you think Sanchez is horribly overrated), but a "salary dump" characterization is also a stretch. It would be legit prospects, maybe in the lower minors though. Every Jays fan's favourite trade chip Sean Nolin could be piece B, while piece A could be someone far off but with real upside like Rich Urena, maybe. I dunno. I'm sure the Reds will want cheap MLB ready pieces more than anything.
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Bruce just looks like a guy who found an approach that worked and then got stagnant. Baseball is a game of adjustments; a war against attrition. A change of scenery might be all he needs to spark a small adjustment to his approach that gets him back to being huge.
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bump cuz ang is dumb
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Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 3m3 minutes ago Blue Jays are, however, working to add a left-handed bat to their lineup. One name they are talking about: Jay Bruce.
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Hamels, any Padres arm, one Cincinnati arm...
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4/60 for Martin and probably an Ellsbury-ish deal for Hanley.
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That's well below market value. Wow.
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Hypothetically the positional adjustment fully and completely negates the difference in positional competence. A ~2 win player doesn't get any more valuable because you move him to LF instead of CF. A Dirks/Pillar/Mayberry platoony thing can probably be worth more than 2 WAR (this is why you let Melky walk and only bring in a LF if it's someone comfortably above average).
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Pro for Sanchez: Not obvious on his Baseball Reference minor league page, where one would focus mostly on his K and BB rates, are his extreme groundball tendencies. Sanchez had a freaky 65.7% GB rate in AA last year, leading all starting pitchers I believe. He translated this to the big leagues in his 33 relief innings. The people who think Sanchez can start could point to someone like Justin Masterson, who has been a pretty solid SP throwing mostly just a hard moving FB and a breaking ball. Extreme GB dude that has struggled with walks and been an erratic K rate guy. Trading the first 6 years of Justin Masterson's career for Jay Bruce would be very, very stupid.
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It's pretty lazy/easy to just comp Randy Johnson for every prospect that can't throw enough strikes as a starter. How about we look at the entire population instead of the absolute, best case, 1/10000 scenario? Forget about Bruce and just focus on selling Sanchez right now. If you can find a GM who's dumb enough to even think of a Randy Johnson esque development path, you shove Sanchez into his pocket in a second and walk away with the profit. And to be completely fair here I am a Sanchez fan. But TINSTAAPP.
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LaRoche is 35 and has less career fWAR than 27 year old Bruce.
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The amount of debate on both sides of this affirms my belief that if a trade were to happen, Sanchez for Bruce is a pretty realistic scenario.
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Agree. Actually I thought / still think similar things about Drabek....
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Hutch > Sanch
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So now Steamer is gospel? Ok. Bruce tore meniscus in his knee and had surgery in May. Could conceivably have fudged his swing and sent his season down the tubes. Maybe he'd cost less than Sanchez. I dunno.
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Melky wants a five year deal and Aaron Sanchez would reasonably project to have a ~zero WAR career. Jay Bruce was poopy last year but that's pretty much the only reason he's available. Four win player before that. Big strong country kid. Toronto trades for players because free agents don't come here You guys are all so dum
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For anyone who believes in lineup protection... Just imagine Bruce sandwiched in between Bautista and Edwin.
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Rumoured to be available. Under contract for his physical prime, age 28-30. $12M $12.5M $13M team option w/ $1M buyout. Thumpy LHB that plugs an obvious roster hole. I'd probably be fine trading Sanchez for him.
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Wright Zobrist Niese Hammel (dropped and picked up) Quentin (not keeping)
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I know he moved to CF this year, but I wonder if he can can play 2B at all... if he could, great bench fit for Toronto. Feliz probably goes very high. Pretty sure he throws like, 99. With a future relief profile anyway, no harm in a team paying 50k to let him try to jump all the way to a big league bullpen. Juan Nicasio DFA'd by Colorado also. I'd easily pick him up and stick him in the pen.
