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Wait, WTF was Steven Wright doing on waivers?
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Dinger ragequit in 3...2...1...
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I actually don't care either way. I'm just questioning the assertion that this is something that's ben happening with any kind of regularity.
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I've also never been asked (to my recollection). Unless njh, north, or Boxy is processing a ton of these I have serious doubts that this happens anywhere near as often as KK seems to think it does (or at all).
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I think it's been done like 2-3 times. And only when the team wanted to promote someone because of a trade or cut down and didn't have any moves left. I don't remember it ever being done because a team just didn't want to use an add. Am I completely out to lunch here?
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Yeah, there's 0 chance he goes to the minors for an extended stretch. Any potential gains are ruined by the lack of goodwill that would result from rewarding your lights out closer of two years with a 90% pay cut, a stalled service time clock, and return to the terrible MiLB lifestyle. He'd throw a fit. The MLBPA would throw a fit. His teammates would throw a fit. The fans would throw a fit. And it would all be justified.
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I'm pretty sure Osuna never starts a game. He's already burned through two full years of team control, and it's far from guaranteed that 150 innings of starter Osuna is more valuable than 60 innings of relief Osuna, or that he can get to 150 innings and stay healthy.
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Aww, the non-playoff riff raff is upset that they can't snatch up the castoffs from teams trying to win
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Yeah, that's one. Seasons of 2 and 2.9 fWAR for Sandoval, then signed for 5/95 entering his age-28 season.
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Well there are no weekly add limits in LOD because the waiver wire consists of shitbag relievers and Ezequiel Carreras.
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Good to know. I don't remember anything about this.
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You can?
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I don't think you'd be saying that if Upton were a year younger and finishing up another 3.5-4 WAR season.
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You have what me and that beautiful bearded bastard Keuchel had last year. Then he lost a tick on his fastball and his shoulder exploded.
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You missed my point, which was that Tulo now is not a consistent 5-win player.
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Nats maybe. Gregorius is probably better than Tulo. Sox are happy with Anderson. Phillies won't block Crawford. Can Seattle add a $20M player? I guess it only takes one, but I just don't see teams lining up to give a 2-3 win shortstop 20M per year. It feels like the Gordon market last year.
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Is there a hitter recently who got $80+M coming of consecutive sub-3 win seasons? Probably, but I can't think of any.
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It would have to be a team that sees him as a significant upgrade on their current situation and has 20+M to spend over 4 years. It's hard to identify a team likely in that boat. Detroit? Is Tulo an $80M upgrade on Iglesias?
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Justin Upton was 29, coming off consecutive 3.5+ win seasons, and had never been hurt. Tulo is 32 and coming off consecutive league average-ish seasons and has a ridiculous injury history. I don't think they're similarly valuable. And Tulo is a consistent 5 WAR player the same way Shin-Soo Choo is a consistent 5 WAR player.
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When I said that Reddick looked to be on his way to another 3+ win season. Then he got hurt and his performance dipped. And Hanley is a good comp. He was a year younger than Tulo at the time he signed, and a better player. Maybe Tulo gets 4/70 or something.
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Josh Hamilton was coming off of consecutive 4-win seasons. Tulo is finishing up his second consecutive league average season, after having major hip surgery. He's a league average bat now, he's certainly not 'at least a league average bat' going forward. He's more Martin Prado and Neil Walker than Encarnacion and Cespedes.
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I just don't think he's good enough that teams will be looking to shift their roster around to accommodate him. Will he even be a top-10 projected hitter on the market?
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WTF. He's 32 and is going to project around 2 wins next year, and there's like 1 team with money that needs a shortstop. I think he'd get like 3/50 or something.
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Jim Johnson has sucked more recently and doesn't have the same job security though.
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He'll return value in a trade. At least a 1st waiver or 2nd MiLB.
