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Please no
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And Boyd to the Cubs for 2/29. Pretty hefty deals for back end starters.
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I remember there was an offseason where there was a lot of discussion on the old forum about the merits of signing Joel Pineiro in free agency. I think think JP Ricciardi also almost signed Gil Meche the offeason he signed in KC.
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I remember there was an offseason where there was a lot of discussion on the old forum about the merits of signing Joel Pineiro in free agency. I think think JP Ricciardi also almost signed Gil Meche the offeason he signed in KC.
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My god this forum sucks. Can barely open a thread or submit a post without getting blasted by a full page ad.
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f***. Was it him instead of Meche? I have no recollection of Ryan Franklin at all
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The Dodgers pay Ohtani 2M a year + 44M into escrow. 46M. The same as their luxury tax hit.
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Freddy Garcia Aaron Sele Jamie Moyer Joel Pineiro Gil Meche?
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But I don't even consider it "savings". They're paying a luxury tax that reflects the actual value of the deal, all things considered. Like, they're not paying the amount they would if all 182M was paid in the next 5 years, because the actual contract Snell signed is significantly less valuable than a deal with no deferrals. If deferrals were not allowed, Snell doesn't get 182M. He gets 160M (or whatever).
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Imagine hearing back in like 2012 that Bnandon Crawford would have a 30-WAR career. Dude had no speed, didn't even hit in the minors, but managed to get to just enough raw power to stay on the field everyday and contribute big value with the glove.
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I don't even think the spirit of the rule is being broken. I just can't see the issue that people are seeing with this. Snell signs for 5/182 65M of that is deferred That reduces the real value of the contract to 5/160 (or so) Luxury tax hit would be 36M if no deferrals, but is ~32M because of the deferrals. What am I supposed to be scandalized by here? It's not even an advantage unique to the Dodgers. Basically every team would love to defer as much money as possible.
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Heyman is so worthless. "Bonus doesn't count against CBT number" is just false reporting.
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I did not enjoy his tenure as a Toronto Blue Jay
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There are two possible stances here: 1. The luxury tax hit should reflect the total dollar amount a contract will pay out. 2. The luxury tax hit should reflect the actual present day value of the contract, accounting for any deferrals. Stang seems to believe that 1. is the case. MLB and the PA have agreed that 2. is the case. I personally think 2. makes a lot more sense than 1.
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I understand what you're saying. I'm curious as to whether any distribution of, say, 100M over a 5-year contract would come with a 20M tax hit per year and if deferrals only reduce the NPV if they go beyond the term of the contract.
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I don't have a firm grasp on the specifics of this yet. Take three hypothetical 5/100 deals: 1. Pays out 20M a year for 5 years 2. Pays out 5/5/5/5/80 3. Pays out 80/5/5/5/5 These would all have a 20M tax amount for the life of the deal, right? With the NPV only being adjusted down with deferrals beyond the term of the 5-year deal? Or am I getting that wrong?
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Not really understanding the outrage/shock over Snell getting a deal worth ~5/160. He’s a top-5 pitcher in baseball when he’s going well, and he’s often going well in the second half, which is all the dodgers care about. I would have been fine with the jays doing this.
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McCann and Martin are now 0-5 on HoF ballots
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Agreed on all accounts. Unfortunately I expect Martin and McCann to fall off the ballot this year, even though they're comparable to two guys who will get in on the first ballot in Mauer and Yadi. Perez might also be a first ballot guy when the time comes.
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Another ballot. Jones, Wagner, CC, and Ichiro are all 2/2. I think all 4 get in this year.
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A bunch of people won't vote for Beltran because he was a main guy behind the Astros cheating.
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Yeah, the counting stats matter to me even if I probably take Felix's peak by a hair. 3500 innings is crazy, and he has 3000 Ks and 250 wins. Huge part of a World Series winner in 2009 too.
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I have CC above Felix, but the more I think about it the more I think Felix will get in. He was so good in his prime that a lot of his counting stats look great by today's standards, even though he was done at 33. People are starting to talk about Wheeler as a potential HoFer and he's like 1200 IP, 900 Ks, 70 wins and 17 fWAR behind Hernandez, going into his age-35 season. He also doesn't have the CY that Felix does, and Felix has 3 more top-10 CY finishes.
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First HoF ballot is in. Not terrible given that no PED guys were going to be picked.
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Terminator and I haven't gloated nearly enough about beating Jim et al. in last offseason's Cody Bellinger wars
