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  WED THU FRI SAT SUN TOT
Tyler Rogers 0 0 0 8 16 24
Spencer Arrighetti 0 0 0 0 43 43
Paul Sewald 0 0 0 17 3 20
Mason Fluharty 11 0 0 0 15 26
Louis Varland 14 0 0 0 16 30
José Rodríguez 0 0 24 0 17 41
Joe Mantiply 0 0 21 0 0 21
Brendon Little 0 0 25 0 0 25
Brendan Cellucci 0 0 13 15 0 28
Braydon Fisher 0 0 23 0 0 23
Posted
Just now, Laika said:

With miniscule playoff odds now, you have to question the logic behind throwing Yesavage 

The only real benefit I see is allowing Yesavage to potentially get back onto the mound and end the season on a bit of a high note. Of course this also risks him further injuring the knee so you have to hope that the knee is ready for this kind of exposure at this point of his recovery.

Posted
44 minutes ago, max silver said:

The only real benefit I see is allowing Yesavage to potentially get back onto the mound and end the season on a bit of a high note. Of course this also risks him further injuring the knee so you have to hope that the knee is ready for this kind of exposure at this point of his recovery.

John rides him for a 104 pitch outing and a torn meniscus diagnosis post-game

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

John rides him for a 104 pitch outing and a torn meniscus diagnosis post-game

"We are still determining whether he can start over the weekend" - John Schneider post game. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Laika said:

With miniscule playoff odds now, you have to question the logic behind throwing Yesavage 

Well if he's healthy, why not? He needs innings, I was thinking he might pitch in the fall this offseason, for a few starts anyway.

Posted
1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

John rides him for a 104 pitch outing and a torn meniscus diagnosis post-game

The club has been publicly stating that they are hoping for something closer to 50-60 pitches so the 104 is all but impossible.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Well if he's healthy, why not? He needs innings, I was thinking he might pitch in the fall this offseason, for a few starts anyway.

Not an arm injury go for it.

Posted
58 minutes ago, ComeTogether said:

 

 

Dallas coming in after Yesavage today most likely. I thought you weren't coming back till next July, lol?

Posted
44 minutes ago, Omar said:

Not an arm injury go for it.

Exactly, and build up the innings, he's young it'll do him good. I believe he's getting married this offseason so, hopefully that's during the winter... 😜

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Posted

So Cease has a dead shoulder and says it started after his 120 pitch complete game 

If you ever need an example of why managers "baby" starters these days, there you go 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Laika said:

So Cease has a dead shoulder and says it started after his 120 pitch complete game 

If you ever need an example of why managers "baby" starters these days, there you go 

Now that's the guy that should take a seat, I see no need for him to pitch against Cincy.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Laika said:

So Cease has a dead shoulder and says it started after his 120 pitch complete game 

If you ever need an example of why managers "baby" starters these days, there you go 

Roy Halladay never complained about a dead shoulder and the dude threw a complete game almost every 4-5 starts. Geez do I miss those days. 

Cease still had really good outings even after that CG against Boston, especially in August. Mostly caught up to him in September since he's been meh. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Spanky__99 said:

Now that's the guy that should take a seat, I see no need for him to pitch against Cincy.

Yeah if the Jays aren't within a game or 0.5 game of WC3, no need to start him at all. Need to protect your $200M + investment. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Roy Halladay never complained about a dead shoulder and the dude threw a complete game almost every 4-5 starts. Geez do I miss those days. 

Cease still had really good outings even after that CG against Boston, especially in August. Mostly caught up to him in September since he's been meh. 

Roy Halladay didn’t average 97 mph on the fastball.

Like it or not, the pursuit for high velocity is the reason for all the extra arm injuries we see in the sport these days

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Yeah if the Jays aren't within a game or 0.5 game of WC3, no need to start him at all. Need to protect your $200M + investment. 

We protected our 500m investment by letting him play injured all season. So I wouldn’t put it past this FO to let Cease start

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Posted
Just now, Stangstag said:

We protected our 500m investment by letting him play injured all season. So I wouldn’t put it past this FO to let Cease start

OH he was injured?  I missed that.  I do expect that the day after he states that he was hurt all year so he can use that as an excuse

Posted
9 minutes ago, M.E. said:

OH he was injured?  I missed that.  I do expect that the day after he states that he was hurt all year so he can use that as an excuse

Hasn’t been confirmed yet, but im expecting to hear about something after the season is over

Posted
34 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Roy Halladay never complained about a dead shoulder and the dude threw a complete game almost every 4-5 starts. Geez do I miss those days. 

Cease still had really good outings even after that CG against Boston, especially in August. Mostly caught up to him in September since he's been meh. 

How is this remotely relevant to what Cease is obviously going through? You are getting awfully close to intimating that Cease is essentially making up his shoulder issue which is fully evidenced by the fact he sitting low 90's in his latest start.

Posted

If we are still mathematically in it this weekend when we face Cincy, wouldn't be surprised if Cease starts on Saturday or Sunday, only in a must win game if still have a shot at the WC.

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Posted

Aside from the obvious that we've run out of people to throw out there and the remaining miniscule chance of a postseason spot, I think there's value in getting Yesavage back on a big league mound for a couple of innings. One less psychological barrier to feel anxious about over a long offseason and potential lockout.

Posted
1 hour ago, Laika said:

So Cease has a dead shoulder and says it started after his 120 pitch complete game 

If you ever need an example of why managers "baby" starters these days, there you go 

Still concerned that this will lead to something down the road. You can't really see everything in a scan, if there's the start of something small it'll only show up when it gets big.

Posted
21 minutes ago, max silver said:

How is this remotely relevant to what Cease is obviously going through? You are getting awfully close to intimating that Cease is essentially making up his shoulder issue which is fully evidenced by the fact he sitting low 90's in his latest start.

Obviously the game has changed from the 1990's/2000's till now. 

Never said Cease made up his shoulder issue, so don't make those accusations that I'm saying that. But crazy that arms back in the 90's/2000's, even guys that threw hard like Johnson/Clemens/Schilling had no issue throwing complete games back then. Different era of baseball. 

Posted
56 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Roy Halladay didn’t average 97 mph on the fastball.

Like it or not, the pursuit for high velocity is the reason for all the extra arm injuries we see in the sport these days

 

Agreed. 

Halladay was the best at his craft. Went to a lot of his starts in the 2000's. Every night he pitched felt like a guaranteed win. We were so lucky as Jays fans to watch him pitch every 5th day. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

Hasn’t been confirmed yet, but im expecting to hear about something after the season is over

Hazel and Dan both said he's been dealing with it for most of the season during the live broadcast Sunday, it's been already cast out into the world of speculation, lol.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

I don't want to hear the ******** excuses for him. 

I really don't.

Yeah, f*ck off and play better.

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