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Toxic owner stuff here 

Astros Owner Reportedly Nixes Trevor Larnach/Bryan Abreu Trade

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5 minutes ago, Laika said:

Toxic owner stuff here 

Astros Owner Reportedly Nixes Trevor Larnach/Bryan Abreu Trade

Imagine running baseball ops and not even having the freedom to trade a broken reliever without the owner stepping in and killing the deal. 

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1 hour ago, metafour said:

The Brewers have the same number of wins as the Dodgers and they also have an elite player development system and an absurdly deep farm system that is pumping out new top prospects every year.

They have zero excuses for choosing to not top this offer. They simply chose to be cheap/wimpy as they always do. What are they even hoarding these prospects for? They are ready to win right now, and with Skubal in their rotation they absolutely could have beaten the Dodgers. This notion that none of these teams can even contend with the Dodgers so why even try is moronic. The 2025 Jays had half the talent on paper and SHOULD have beaten them.

This was a missed opportunity by the Brewers. Who gives a s*** if Skubal won't re-sign long term? At some point you need to push some of your chips in and play for the win. Given their player development system, the loss of prospects is a non-issue.

For team like the Brewers, Guardians or Rays, they are just happy if can play in playoff and make extra money without the need to spend more cash to improve the team. The teams who really compete for the WS, are the sames we are used, Dodgers, NYK, Cubs, Braves, Red Sox, Phillies, Jays, Mariners, Rangers, Mets and Astros

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16 minutes ago, Terminator said:

The Tigers are wimps. This is the offer you take on Monday morning. 

Why? They basically got 2 top prospects for an expiring contract. That's a great return for them.

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3 minutes ago, Abomination said:

Why? They basically got 2 top prospects for an expiring contract. That's a great return for them.

Ya most teams arent trading more than that knowing theres a 0 percent chance they can bring him back. 

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If the cost for a Peralta is something like Perry, Stanifer, Tiedemann and Juan Sanchez, Jays should do it. I will also check if Marlins can trade Otto Lopez

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7 minutes ago, Abomination said:

Why? They basically got 2 top prospects for an expiring contract. That's a great return for them.

“Top prospects”

-50 FV

-28 year old pitcher who can’t actually pitch because he is always hurt

-40 FV 

wow watch out for the Tigers, time to hang the 2032 World Series banner in Detroit

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3 minutes ago, Bob_Gratton said:

If the cost for a Peralta is something like Perry, Stanifer, Tiedemann and Juan Sanchez, Jays should do it. I will also check if Marlins can trade Otto Lopez

Peralta is a free agent after this season 

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Best trade deadline pitcher in decades goes for that pile of prospects and I think we should be buying, Kevin Gausman is only going to get us a 40 FV anyway and we already have about 30 of those guys in the system 

Posted
1 minute ago, BTS said:

Peralta is a free agent after this season 

I know, but this doesn't prevent Atkins to sign him before he become a free agent. Just offering him similar contract than for Cease. So we can have SP Cease, Peralta, Gausman, Yesevage, Ponce/Miles

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45 minutes ago, Terminator said:

The Tigers are wimps. This is the offer you take on Monday morning. 

Didn't Atkins do the same thing? 

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4 minutes ago, Bob_Gratton said:

No, otherwise if they win the WS, we should say goodbye to salary cap

As a Blue Jays supporter why would you want a salary cap?  

Posted
3 minutes ago, hanton said:

Didn't Atkins do the same thing? 

Atkins only have bag of garbages to trade ( Bieber, Springer, Little, Corbin) So he won't get much for that. I won't be surprised if he wan't keep Hoffman, and try sign Gausman and Varsho, instead of trading them.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Omar said:

As a Blue Jays supporter why would you want a salary cap?  

To prevent Dodgers have 2 billions payroll, with 5 #1 starters, 6 closers. and all star players in every positions including on the bench.

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Just now, Bob_Gratton said:

To prevent Dodgers have 2 billions payroll, with 5 #1 starters, 6 closers. and all star players in every positions including on the bench.

Meh...you can only roster 40.  Plenty of very good players in the league.  If teams dont have the business acumen to compete they should get out of the game. 

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Salary cap is a good idea as long as high salary floor exists as well. Forcing those penny pitchers to actually compete would be the best thing for Baseball. 

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Just now, Omar said:

Meh...you can only roster 40.  Plenty of very good players in the league.  If teams dont have the business acumen to compete they should get out of the game. 

Even the Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Jays, Cubs and Phillies wont spend half what the Dodgers spend. Remember in the NHL when Colorado, Detroit, NJ, Dallas was the biggest spenders, so every season, we already know who will end up win the Stanley cup. Since NHL have a salary cap,things are different. Same with the NBA and NFL, salary cap make every teams have = chances to win.

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3 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Salary cap is a good idea as long as high salary floor exists as well. Forcing those penny pitchers to actually compete would be the best thing for Baseball. 

Yep, something like 175M minimum spending, 350M max 

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Salary caps ruin leagues

Whatever problems MLB has, the NBA and NHL are much worse to follow as a fan. I hate the transaction discourse in those leagues.

Posted
24 minutes ago, hanton said:

Didn't Atkins do the same thing? 

Can you refresh my memory?

Not sure who you are talking about but I do remember Pat Gillick trading a prospect who became a Hall of Famer for David Cone and no one regrets it

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3 minutes ago, Laika said:

Salary caps ruin leagues

Whatever problems MLB has, the NBA and NHL are much worse to follow as a fan. I hate the transaction discourse in those leagues.

Can you elaborate?  You mean the # of moves? Or how they have to match salaries?

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3 minutes ago, Bob_Gratton said:

Yep, something like 175M minimum spending, 350M max 

 

You could even make it a 300M cap, but don't count salaries under 2M towards it or something. That gives teams a little bit of flexibility in the event of injuries.

A hard cap is fine if it's generous enough. The NBA and NHL caps are probably too low.

 

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