Brandon Glick Site Manager Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Huge series for the Wild Card hopefuls out there. SUN MON TUE WED THU TOT Tyler Rogers 0 19 18 0 0 37 Tommy Nance 0 0 17 12 0 29 Spencer Miles 0 0 28 0 0 28 Simeon Woods Richardson 0 0 0 0 43 43 Mason Fluharty 0 0 15 20 0 35 Louis Varland 0 12 0 0 0 12 Jeff Hoffman 0 0 13 13 0 26 Braydon Fisher 0 6 26 0 0 32
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago SWR allowed 0 runs in 10 innings. Clearly he needed to allow more runs to stay with the Jays lol. jaysblue and Rynodb1 2
Doubleplay21 Verified Member Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Jays24 said: SWR allowed 0 runs in 10 innings. Clearly he needed to allow more runs to stay with the Jays lol. Meanwhile Hoffman can do no wrong. Jays24, Acemeister79 and Rynodb1 1 2
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Jays24 said: SWR allowed 0 runs in 10 innings. Clearly he needed to allow more runs to stay with the Jays lol. Wow - some of your very best work there. It's almost like they made decisions based on projected results, not past results. Odd. jaysblue and Jays24 2
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Doubleplay21 said: Meanwhile Hoffman can do no wrong. Hoffman 35 minutes ago, Jays24 said: SWR allowed 0 runs in 10 innings. Clearly he needed to allow more runs to stay with the Jays lol. His stuff metrics are actually worse than his stint with the Twins and the underlying metrics are downright awful. His success was entirely luck driven and it was just a matter of time before the wheels fell off completely.
gruber9292 Verified Member Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Sean Keys also called up,let's now witness some real slug to go with Kaz.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Brownie19 said: Wow - some of your very best work there. It's almost like they made decisions based on projected results, not past results. Odd. Really wish we could have won the "underlying numbers" World Series last year. Why does baseball allow games to be decided by actual results?!?! Arrgghh. /s jaysblue 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, max silver said: Hoffman His stuff metrics are actually worse than his stint with the Twins and the underlying metrics are downright awful. His success was entirely luck driven and it was just a matter of time before the wheels fell off completely. Whereas we employ Hoffman whose wheels have fallen off for 1.5 seasons but has "great stuff". Gotta love the khakis outsmarting themselves loll. jaysblue 1
DownSouthBlueJay Verified Member Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Same sh*t different day.At least Valenzeula is playing kirk has been pretty awful. Omar 1
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Really wish we could have won the "underlying numbers" World Series last year. Why does baseball allow games to be decided by actual results?!?! Arrgghh. /s News flash. Every team in baseball operates using advanced statistics/metrics and predictive models. Nobody gives a flying f*ck about you useless perspective on baseball. Spanky__99, Stangstag and Jays24 2 1
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Jays24 said: Whereas we employ Hoffman whose wheels have fallen off for 1.5 seasons but has "great stuff". Gotta love the khakis outsmarting themselves loll. Weren't you the one that was whining about the khakis at the trade deadline last year? Because the Jays were only able to get Varland while the Yankees got Bednar, Camilo Doval, and that turd from the Rockies? Spanky__99 and Brownie19 1 1
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Jays24 said: Whereas we employ Hoffman whose wheels have fallen off for 1.5 seasons but has "great stuff". Gotta love the khakis outsmarting themselves loll. Have you learned literally nothing in your time posting on this board? The front office people who decided to DFA SWR vs Hoffman possess dramatically more in depth baseball knowledge than you have any prayer of as you are completely incapable of looking past results and have proven repeatedly you have zero understanding of what goes on underneath the hood towards successful pitching. Pitcher A 6.40 ERA/5.85 xERA/5.83 FIP .314 BABIP 4.84 K/9 4.99 BB/9 0.97 K/BB 87 Stuff+ 93 Location+ 85 Pitching+ Pitcher B 4.84 ERA/3.09 xERA/2.88 FIP .427 BABIP 14.52 K/9 3.57 BB/9 4.07 K/BB 108 Stuff+ 100 Location+ 108 Pitching+ There isn't a single club in MLB that would choose Pitcher A over Pitcher B. Pitcher B has elite underlying numbers and is seeing his results steadily improve towards the mean as his BABIP has been normalizing from a historically unlucky start to the season. Pitcher A has seen his stuff and command regress dramatically this season and these have actually gotten worse since joining the Blue Jays. Stangstag and Spanky__99 2
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Hopefully SWR passes through waivers and could be sent to AAA. Would be nice depth to keep around in Buffalo. Jays24 and Rynodb1 2
SeranthonySantander Verified Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, Jays24 said: SWR allowed 0 runs in 10 innings. Clearly he needed to allow more runs to stay with the Jays lol. Is Simeon Woods Richardson a young white guy? I think you can read between the lines here. Wonder what happen to Macadoo as well
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 minute ago, SeranthonySantander said: Is Simeon Woods Richardson a young white guy? I think you can read between the lines here. Stop trying to make this a racial thing. SWR has horrible stuff, equally poor command, has been one of MLB's least successful pitchers this season and was received for free as a scrap heap pickup. This is a below average arm who offers little upside in any capacity and that's it. Acemeister79 and Rynodb1 2
SeranthonySantander Verified Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 minutes ago, max silver said: Stop trying to make this a racial thing. SWR has horrible stuff, equally poor command, has been one of MLB's least successful pitchers this season and was received for free as a scrap heap pickup. This is a below average arm who offers little upside in any capacity and that's it. Nm this is what Google Ai says, I guess you’re right we aren’t a racist Org ”how many black players are on the blue jays?” The Toronto Blue Jays currently have two Black players on their active roster: outfielder Myles Straw and designated hitter/outfielder George Springer. [1, 2, 3, 4] The representation of Black athletes across Major League Baseball sits at approximately \(6.8\%\) of active and inactive rosters. Throughout the history of the franchise, several Black players have made immense impacts on the team—such as Joe Carter and Cito Gaston
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Why are we comparing Hoffman to SWR? Jays24 was obviously joking and stirring the pot. You guys fall for the bait way too easily. Hoffman’s ratios are clearly better than SWR’s. Nobody is arguing otherwise. SWR is just a long man out of the pen - nothing special. Hoffman, when he’s on, can be an elite weapon in relief. And since being removed from the closer’s role, he’s looked a lot more comfortable. He’s not going to be perfect every outing, but if he can limit those implosions every couple of weeks, the Jays should be fine. Rynodb1 and Jays24 2
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago SWR had a nice stretch for the Jays and gave them some important innings when the team really needed them. But the advanced metrics painted a different picture, and we all knew those results probably weren’t going to last. He’s a back-end bullpen piece who can eat innings, and that’s about it. He was likely going to be the first guy cut once they needed to make roster moves. Hopefully he passes through waivers and can be sent down to AAA. Depth never hurts.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I hear a pigeon purring? Rynodb1 1
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 6 minutes ago, jaysblue said: Why are we comparing Hoffman to SWR? Jays24 was obviously joking and stirring the pot. You guys fall for the bait way too easily. Hoffman’s ratios are clearly better than SWR’s. Nobody is arguing otherwise. SWR is just a long man out of the pen - nothing special. Hoffman, when he’s on, can be an elite weapon in relief. And since being removed from the closer’s role, he’s looked a lot more comfortable. He’s not going to be perfect every outing, but if he can limit those implosions every couple of weeks, the Jays should be fine. Asks why people are comparing Hoffman to SWR (I didn't think anyone was) Proceeds to write two paragraphs where he actually compares Hoffman to SWR jaysblue, Smokinitup420, Spanky__99 and 1 other 4
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Terminator said: Asks why people are comparing Hoffman to SWR (I didn't think anyone was) Proceeds to write two paragraphs where he actually compares Hoffman to SWR Max did write an essay a couple posts above lol.
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 43 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said: Rynodb1 and Spanky__99 1 1
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 24 minutes ago, jaysblue said: Why are we comparing Hoffman to SWR? Jays24 was obviously joking and stirring the pot. You guys fall for the bait way too easily. Hoffman’s ratios are clearly better than SWR’s. Nobody is arguing otherwise. SWR is just a long man out of the pen - nothing special. Hoffman, when he’s on, can be an elite weapon in relief. And since being removed from the closer’s role, he’s looked a lot more comfortable. He’s not going to be perfect every outing, but if he can limit those implosions every couple of weeks, the Jays should be fine. Jays24 directly stated that the Blue Jays front office was stupid for DFA'ing SWR instead of Hoffman so give me a break. In fact two posters directly stated that Hoffman survived being DFA'd over SWR. This is yet another disingenuous post on your part in an act of white knighting for morons. Jays24 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 29 minutes ago, jaysblue said: Why are we comparing Hoffman to SWR? Jays24 was obviously joking and stirring the pot. You guys fall for the bait way too easily. Hoffman’s ratios are clearly better than SWR’s. Nobody is arguing otherwise. SWR is just a long man out of the pen - nothing special. Hoffman, when he’s on, can be an elite weapon in relief. And since being removed from the closer’s role, he’s looked a lot more comfortable. He’s not going to be perfect every outing, but if he can limit those implosions every couple of weeks, the Jays should be fine. Haha for real man. Its been a miserable season so yes, there will be a lot of s*** posting to keep ourselves entertained because the Jays arent as hell doing it lol. And totally agree with the assessment. I've been saying for over a year that Hoffman needed to be in the 7th/8th inning role like hes been for the best parts of his career. It was obvious to keep him there to limit his implosements whereas a closer you need to ride until the wheels fall off.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, max silver said: Jays24 directly stated that the Blue Jays front office was stupid for DFA'ing SWR instead of Hoffman so give me a break. In fact two posters directly stated that Hoffman survived being DFA'd over SWR. This is yet another disingenuous post on your part in an act of white knighting for morons. Man stfu please. Everyone in here can have a great time talking smack about the Jays except you and the usual folks who try to police the board. No one gives a crap about you taking so much offense to any comment against the Jays even if it can be in a lighthearted fashion.
DownSouthBlueJay Verified Member Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago How many games is it now in a row we have trailed in the 1st inning?
SeranthonySantander Verified Member Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago We could easily be down by 3 this isn’t over yet Omar 1
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