Blue Jays (Scherzer) vs Guardians (Williams): 6/25/25, 6:40pm

[BB17]

3 hours ago, glory said:

Roden is awful. Not sure how much of that is his fault at this point since he’s playing like once a week but he’s not a guy you want up there in an important spot.

And pinch hitting for Kirk in a tie game was ridiculous.

His swing is just terrible. Until he can make an adjustment on the inner half of the plate he’s going to struggle. He has a decent eye but when you can’t hit the ball hard/ hit a ton of grounders and pop ups it’s a recipe for failure. 

He raked when he went back down to AAA so you’d like to think the talent is there but it’s starting to look like it might not happen with the Jays at least this season. 

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, hanton said:

Had to re-watch the sac bunt, look how far Gimenez is from 1st?  why not let Bo hold the runner since he has to cover 2nd anyway; and move Gimenez over to his natural position so he can easily cover 1st .  This was a straight sac they were giving us the out, then you walk jram and take your chances with Santana

 

Yeah just looks like bad infield positioning here. Have to at least be able to get an out at 1st

[mphenhef]

10 hours ago, hanton said:

JS just said Heineman should have thrown the ball LOL, wut?

Game would have been over with the next batter either way.  

[John_Havok]

8 hours ago, BB17 said:

His swing is just terrible. Until he can make an adjustment on the inner half of the plate he’s going to struggle. He has a decent eye but when you can’t hit the ball hard/ hit a ton of grounders and pop ups it’s a recipe for failure. 

He raked when he went back down to AAA so you’d like to think the talent is there but it’s starting to look like it might not happen with the Jays at least this season. 

The gap in pitching talent from AAA to the majors is probably the biggest its ever been. It's entirely possibly he's a AAAA player. Yes, too soon to make that determination, but its getting more likely by the day. He cant hit low offspeed pitches And cant handle velo... hard to stick into the majors with that profile. 

[glory]

9 hours ago, BB17 said:

His swing is just terrible. Until he can make an adjustment on the inner half of the plate he’s going to struggle. He has a decent eye but when you can’t hit the ball hard/ hit a ton of grounders and pop ups it’s a recipe for failure. 

He raked when he went back down to AAA so you’d like to think the talent is there but it’s starting to look like it might not happen with the Jays at least this season. 

Yeah I just don’t see it with Roden. He doesn’t pass the eye test, and the underlying data supports that. Given his age and profile, I’m not confident he’s going to be any good. If he does end up being good eventually then it probably won’t be in 2025, so either way he shouldn’t be up at this point. Let him mash 89 mph line drives in AAA and then trade him at the deadline.

[hanton]

6 hours ago, mphenhef said:

Game would have been over with the next batter either way.  

huh?  you walk jram load them up with the forces everywhere, take your chances with Santana