Blue Jays (Bassitt) vs Cardinals (Mikolas): 6/10/25, 7:45pm

[hanton]

3 minutes ago, BB17 said:

I used to like Arden but he always talks like he’s the smartest guy in the room. Shits on Green for giving up 2.5 HR/9 meanwhile Hoffman who he praises has the same home run rate on the year lol.

nah man we need someone like Arden, he was questioning the moves that's a good thing

[Grant77]

Rays, Guardians, and Twins lose. Astros and Mariners losing. Yankees won, but a pretty solid night in the out of town scoreboard so far.

[jaysthebest]

Just now, Grant77 said:

Rays and Twins lose. Astros and Mariners losing. Yankees won, but a pretty solid night in the out of town scoreboard so far.

I think the Yankees winning against the Royals is not a bad outcome since we can secure our wildcard spot...

[John_Havok]

Its not everyday you give up 5 runs over the 8th and 9th innings and win...gotta take that W with a huge sigh of relief

[Jays24]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the offense lately!  We have been getting punished for the past 2+ seasons until this recent stretch.  Scoring runs is f***ing fun!!

[glory]

John Schneider is really, really bad at managing a bullpen. 

The one bright spot here is that he had Hoffman warm up the pen leading up to the 9th anyway, so using him here was probably better than letting him get hot, not using him, and then pitching him tomorrow as well. Now he's definitely out for tomorrow (barring JS losing his mind), another off day Thursday, and then he won't pitch Saturday either with Francis starting (no chance that's a save situation unless the Baseball God's are smiling on us that day), so maybe he can rest up a bit. 

[Omar]

4 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Bassitt is in a contract year. 

Schneider has to get his starters to the finish line in September.  If Gausman, Berrios or Bassitt go down for an extended period, our season is toast.

[hanton]

this doesn't feel like a win, strange.

[Spanky__99]

Jays pick up a game on everyone but the Yankees as they're wrapping up a W... Min/Cle/KC/TB all lost. The 'Stros about to lose to the Chisox, lol...  and Seattle's down 2-0 to the D Backs.

Feels good, man.

[Spanky__99]

7 minutes ago, Grant77 said:

Rays, Guardians, and Twins lose. Astros and Mariners losing. Yankees won, but a pretty solid night in the out of town scoreboard so far.

s***, I missed this, hah.

[hanton]

Green was throwing harder than Hoffman

[Omar]

 

 

[Doubleplay21]

Hoffman must lead the majors in home runs by a reliever. 

[jaysthebest]

We gave Hoffman $33M for 3 years, so we can only hope for him to get better.

[Big_Walleye]

1 minute ago, Doubleplay21 said:

Hoffman must lead the majors in home runs by a reliever. 

He's tied with all other relievers with 0 home runs hit.

[Jays24]

2 minutes ago, Doubleplay21 said:

Hoffman must lead the majors in home runs by a reliever. 

Buy your outfield seats when Francis + Hoffman are expected to pitch, you're guaranteed a home run ball lol

[harvey16]

Hoffman has to be the worst 17 Save closer ever at this point of the season. He's converted 17 of 20 save opportunities, yet had an ERA of 5.70 and even his FIP is over 4.00. That's absolutely terrible stats for a closer.

[Masterbather]

17 minutes ago, Doubleplay21 said:

Hoffman must lead the majors in home runs by a reliever. 

Tied with Chad Green actually lol

[Masterbather]

29 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Can we take a moment to appreciate the offense lately!  We have been getting punished for the past 2+ seasons until this recent stretch.  Scoring runs is f***ing fun!!

That's why I said this team needs a front line starter more than it needs offense.

[glory]

Just now, Masterbather said:

That's why I said this team needs a front line starter more than it needs offense.

Yeah the Jays caught a huge break with Barger turning into a good 3B and Rodriguez/Little/etc turning into leverage relievers, because that significantly narrows down their deadline needs. They absolutely have to add a starter, preferably closer to a #1-2 than a 4-5. Obviously some other cosmetic changes would be helpful (another bench bat, etc), but adding a SP that could realistically start a playoff game (and not just someone to soak up regular season innings) would be a huge add. 

[Hogtown]

9 minutes ago, glory said:

 adding a SP that could realistically start a playoff game (and not just someone to soak up regular season innings) would be a huge add. 

Berrios, Gausman, Scherzer and Bassitt seems like a solid 4man rotation in the post season. IMO they should be looking on adding another high leverage reliever depending on how Sandlin and Garcia pitch once back from injury 

Overall, they just need vladdy and Santander to hit and they should be able to take AL East

[Jays24]

15 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

That's why I said this team needs a front line starter more than it needs offense.

No way in hell did either of us expect this offensive outburst after what we witnessed the past 2 years... especially without Santandar & Varsho. 

With Francis blowing chunks, it would be hard to argue with you now lol. 

[BB17]

2 hours ago, glory said:

Yeah the Jays caught a huge break with Barger turning into a good 3B and Rodriguez/Little/etc turning into leverage relievers, because that significantly narrows down their deadline needs. They absolutely have to add a starter, preferably closer to a #1-2 than a 4-5. Obviously some other cosmetic changes would be helpful (another bench bat, etc), but adding a SP that could realistically start a playoff game (and not just someone to soak up regular season innings) would be a huge add. 

Agree 100%. In a playoff series Gausman is really the only SP on the team I’d feel confident in and even then he has a dud outing more than you’d like. Bassit is a solid number 4 who can soak innings but I don’t think you really want him starting a playoff game. 

[Masterbather]

12 minutes ago, BB17 said:

Agree 100%. In a playoff series Gausman is really the only SP on the team I’d feel confident in and even then he has a dud outing more than you’d like. Bassit is a solid number 4 who can soak innings but I don’t think you really want him starting a playoff game. 

Look at the top teams in the American League Yankees, Tigers, Astros. They all have a f***ing stud and really good number two options as well. Even beyond that, Seattle, KC, Minny, Texas. All better at the front of the rotation. Are we really going to compete with those teams with Gausman and f***ing Bassitt/Berrios?

As much as I appreciate those guys, let's be real. 

[G-Snarls]

4 hours ago, Jays24 said:

No way in hell did either of us expect this offensive outburst after what we witnessed the past 2 years... especially without Santandar & Varsho. 

With Francis blowing chunks, it would be hard to argue with you now lol. 

I forgot Santander existed until you mentioned him 

[gruber9292]

The offence is much more fluid with Satandar out of the line up. 

[Masterbather]

59 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

The offence is much more fluid with Satandar out of the line up. 

I was completely neutral on the Santander signing, but I'm willing to wait out his struggles, obviously he's not as bad as he has been and he's had some injuries, just hasn't gotten comfortable yet.

Hopefully he comes back healthy and maybe with the team and offense playing well, it takes some of the pressure off and he can relax a little.

We don't have a lot of thunder lower in the lineup, his bat lengthens our lineup power wise.

[BB17]

8 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Look at the top teams in the American League Yankees, Tigers, Astros. They all have a f***ing stud and really good number two options as well. Even beyond that, Seattle, KC, Minny, Texas. All better at the front of the rotation. Are we really going to compete with those teams with Gausman and f***ing Bassitt/Berrios?

As much as I appreciate those guys, let's be real. 

Yeah and while the Jays have a good pen, the more often teams see the same guys in the series the more they do well against them as we saw last postseason.

Its great to see the Jays do well but I'm skeptical they are a legit contender with team as is. We will see what they do at the deadline.

[Brownie19]

Maybe we trade for Sale if the Braves are out of the race...

[Spanky__99]

9 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Look at the top teams in the American League Yankees, Tigers, Astros. They all have a f***ing stud and really good number two options as well. Even beyond that, Seattle, KC, Minny, Texas. All better at the front of the rotation. Are we really going to compete with those teams with Gausman and f***ing Bassitt/Berrios?

As much as I appreciate those guys, let's be real. 

Do you honestly think that's what happens, man? Come the deadline hotstove and the Jays are in a similar position as now, you bet your ass they'll be getting a front end arm at the deadline.