Davy Andrews Verified Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 Clement's virtually unprecedented offensive profile makes him one of the oddest players in baseball. Will he be able to leverage it into success? I don’t know else to say this, but Blue Jays third baseman Ernie Clement is a total freak. I mean that in a good way for the most part, but it’s undeniable. There is quite simply no one else in baseball like Clement. The 28-year-old infielder has a career wRC+ of 81, which means that he’s been 19% worse than the average hitter, but he possesses bat-to-ball skills that put him in the conversation with some of the game’s most talented hitters. That’s possible because Clement features a mish-mash of skills that don’t normally get stuffed into the same batter. It all starts with his odd idea of plate discipline. When he saw a pitch outside the strike zone in 2024, Clement swung 43.3% of the time. Among batters with at least 400 plate appearances, that was the third-highest rate in baseball. Quite simply, that is not where any batter wants to be. Chasing pitches out of the zone results in whiffs, strikeouts, and weak contact, and those are very bad things. However, on pitches inside the zone, Clement was more aggressive than average, but not particularly extreme. In 2024, the league as a whole swung at 67.7% of pitches in the strike zone. Clement’s 70.1% mark put him right around 95th place. For the most part, players who chase are just players who swing a lot, but not Clement. Here’s a scatterplot that shows the chase rate and the zone swing rate of every player who made at least 400 PAs in 2024. Clement is the red dot that's not near any of the other dots. Look how far below the trendline he is. Nobody who chases anywhere near as much as Clement does is as patient as he is when it comes to pitches over the plate. There’s a simple reason that Clement is unusual in this respect: This is not a recipe for success. Players who swing at bat pitches while letting the good ones go by don't last very long. So why is Clement still around, getting ready to play in his fifth big-league season? Because he can, to some extent, make this extremely suboptimal approach work. That brings us to Clement’s real superpower: he makes so, so much contact. He swings at more bad pitches than just about anybody, but he’s incredible at avoiding whiffs even on the most ill-advised swing. Baseball Savant breaks the strike zone down in to four categories: heart, shadow, chase, and waste. The heart zone is what it sounds like, pitches over the middle of the zone. The shadow zone is pitches within two inches of the edge. The chase zone is pitches that are outside the zone but close enough that batters might be tempted to swing at them. Lastly, the waste zone is pitches that are so far outside the zone that batters almost never swing at them. In 2024, no player put more pitches in the waste zone in play than Clement did. Only four players – each of whom saw over 1,000 pitches more than Clement – put more pitches in the chase zone into play than he did. Here he is homering on a pitch in the waste zone. It’s at his eyes! Here’s our second scatterplot. It once again features every batter with 400 PAs during the 2024 season, and once again Clement is the red dot way the hell away from everybody else in baseball. He’s all the way in the upper right in open defiance of the common-sense law decreeing that pitches that are hard to reach are also hard to hit. So Clement is a drastic outlier this season, but we can look further back. Here’s the same graph, but it shows every player season with at least 400 PAs dating all the way back to 2002. That’s 1,681 seasons. It’s a much noisier graph, but the trendline is even stronger, and Clement’s 2024 season still stands alone. Over the past 23 seasons, no one has ever chased as often while making as much contact as Clement did. This season was an enormous outlier. Clement didn’t just make a lot of contact, either. The 2024 season was the first in which Statcast started tracking squared-up rate, which uses pitch velocity, exit velocity, and bat speed to calculate how solidly the batter struck the ball. Clement’s 36.9% squared-up rate was the third highest in baseball, trailing only Luis Arráez (43.9%) and Steven Kwan (38.8%). He was just ahead of Mookie Betts (35.8%). That’s some incredible company. Clement truly has a gift for getting the barrel to the ball. If he ever figures out how to channel his aggression in a more productive manner Clement could easily find himself in the conversation with players like Arráez and Kwan. They’re not the best hitters in the world, but their incredible gifts for contact allow them to produce, year in and year out. Unfortunately, that’s an extremely tall order, because plate discipline is stubborn. Over the years, it has proven extremely hard to improve upon. If he wants to keep getting big league ABs, Clement will just have to keep making tons of solid contact, because almost nobody has ever gone from chasing as much as he did last season to showing excellent plate discipline the following year. Then again, maybe we shouldn’t count Clement out; if there’s one thing he’s good at, it’s doing things that previously seemed impossible. View full article Spanky99, wilko, Barrelsandbombs and 4 others 7
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 This is Davy Andrews in mid-season form already. Spanky99, Barrelsandbombs, max silver and 2 others 5
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said: This is Davy Andrews in mid-season form already. Is this Davy Andrews from Fangraphs? I'm assuming it is, great content. Terminator and wilko 2
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 1 minute ago, Spanky99 said: Is this Davy Andrew from Fangraphs? I'm assuming it is, great content. It is! He's the managing editor of the site. Barrelsandbombs, Spanky99, wilko and 2 others 4 1
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 4 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: It is! He's the managing editor of the site. Cool Beans! 😎 Brock Beauchamp 1
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 With Clement I feel like you just hope that the BABIP favours him somewhat, because if he's swinging at everything and not necessarily hitting the ball particularly hard, there's bound to be some variance to the profile. As long as he's not getting totally exploited on pitches that even he couldn't hit - thinking breaking balls far outside the plate. Doubtful he'll gain any plate discipline, but I think the article shows that it's not a mirage that his ability to make contact is legit. If he can stick around league average on offense with excellent defense and good baserunning we'll take that. The defense is legit and he can play all over the infield at a high level. Spanky99, Terminator, BatFlip and 1 other 4
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Spanky99 said: Is this Davy Andrews from Fangraphs? I'm assuming it is, great content. Real life celebrity Davy Andrews. Orioles Hangout is shook. wilko, Orgfiller, Spanky99 and 3 others 6
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 1 minute ago, Terminator said: Real life celebrity Davy Andrews. Orioles Hangout is shook.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 6 hours ago, Davy Andrews said: Clement's virtually unprecedented offensive profile makes him one of the oddest players in baseball. Will he be able to leverage it into success? View full article Welcome to the site Davy! Do you think Clement is starting material at 3B? Or should the Jays be looking to acquire someone better? Brownie19 1
BatFlip Verified Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Orgfiller said: With Clement I feel like you just hope that the BABIP favours him somewhat, because if he's swinging at everything and not necessarily hitting the ball particularly hard, there's bound to be some variance to the profile. As long as he's not getting totally exploited on pitches that even he couldn't hit - thinking breaking balls far outside the plate. Doubtful he'll gain any plate discipline, but I think the article shows that it's not a mirage that his ability to make contact is legit. If he can stick around league average on offense with excellent defense and good baserunning we'll take that. The defense is legit and he can play all over the infield at a high level. Yeah 100%. His contact along with his glove should make him a pretty decent option in the infield. I actually thought he looked great at SS in the limited time he played there. I just looked it up and he had 314 innings at short with a 13.3 UZR/150 and 4 OAA. The concern with Ernie is that he's more of a well known quantity now and pitchers will be looking to further exploit his Vlad Guerrero Sr swing zone. If he ends up being a 80 wRC+ bat, he's really just a depth option and that's a pretty likely outcome. Spanky99 and Orgfiller 2
BatFlip Verified Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 Also, thanks for the great content Davy, looking forward to your future pieces. Spanky99, Terminator, Davy Andrews and 2 others 5
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 Ernie's plate approach reminds me a lot of Blue Jays legend Kevin Pillar. A more extreme version, but Pillar had this general approach where he would chase all the time but make a lot of contact and then for some reason take pitches in the zone too often. I always thought Pillar had a 60 hit tool with a minus eye and this was how he compensated. Terminator, wilko and max silver 3
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted January 8, 2025 Posted January 8, 2025 4 minutes ago, BatFlip said: Also, thanks for the great content Davy, looking forward to your future pieces. Ditto Davy Andrews, Terminator and Brock Beauchamp 3
Davy Andrews Verified Member Posted January 10, 2025 Author Posted January 10, 2025 On 1/8/2025 at 1:21 PM, Terminator said: Welcome to the site Davy! Do you think Clement is starting material at 3B? Or should the Jays be looking to acquire someone better? Thanks! First, I should admit that I'm biased because I adore players who make as much contact as Clement. I actually think what @Orgfiller said was spot on. Clement makes so much contact that he could absolutely have a great BABIP year and look like a star. And if there are no better options, than sure, let him try to make it work. Players with those kind of bat-to-ball skills don't come around every day. However, it's hard to argue that the team shouldn't be looking to improve the position. Spanky99 and Terminator 2
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