GDT: 1/3 Gaurdians vs Jays (7:07pm et)

[Spanky99]

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

LETS GO BLUE JAYS *CLAP, CLAP* *CLAP, CLAP, CLAP*

 

[BigCecil]

Clase is so f***ing nasty with that cutter. Like Rivera and Jansen at their best, but on steroids.

[Spanky99]

Another L on the bats.

[Carlos Danger]

Logan Allen is available in the DDL

[BCZ]

What a useless f***ing offense, holy f***

[Omar]

One of the few games I missed this season. Looks like I picked a good night to take off. Lots of gloomy Gus' in this thread.

[Laika]

Another dusty SP just completely dominates the Blue Jays

 

Fastballs at 92 mph on the inner third are just too insane for these guys to hit I guess!!!

[Carlos Danger]

One of the few games I missed this season. Looks like I picked a good night to take off. Lots of gloomy Gus' in this thread.

 

I picked the wrong night to stop sniffing glue.

[Omar]

I picked the wrong night to stop sniffing glue.

 

CD please...you know what that stuff does to your neocortex?

[MikeM3]

I cannot watch this team play baseball. Can you imagine what JB Eddie and Donaldson would do to this s*** can lefty

 

Just swing out of their shoes dead pull nukes

[BigCecil]

Big crowd tonight. 38,000 Too bad we didn’t yank a couple balls into the LF seats for them tonight. Tip yer cap to a top shelf pitcher over there L.T Allen.

[Omar]

Big crowd tonight. 38,000 Too bad we didn’t yank a couple balls into the LF seats for them tonight. Tip yer cap to a top shelf pitcher over there L.T Allen.

 

You know times are tough in Blue Jay land when we have to pull the bjmb hr contest at the end of June.

[G-Snarls]

1 run huh?

[Masterbather]

Jays let down all the colourful people in the colourful ballpark tonight.

 

Jerks.

[Brownie19]

I picked the wrong night to stop sniffing glue.

 

Explains a few things...

[DigitalRock]

This team brings depression

[connorp]

Jays let down all the colourful people in the colourful ballpark tonight.

 

Jerks.

 

Average cell phone usage was likely 90% of game time.

[jaysblue]

What's so frustrating is if this team just had a decent lineup, they likely are a couple games over .500 and holding WC3.

 

It wasn't that difficult to improve the offense last offseason. If Atkins and the FO couldn't, then I don't think they belong in baseball.

[BTS]

What's so frustrating is if this team just had a decent lineup, they likely are a couple games over .500 and holding WC3.

 

It wasn't that difficult to improve the offense last offseason. If Atkins and the FO couldn't, then I don't think they belong in baseball.

 

The problem facing Atkins is that it's not just a matter of adding a bat or two. Their bullpen has an ERA of almost 5 and there's literally no reliable arms after Garcia. And Bichette and Springer suck now. The path to looking like a contender is something like:

 

- Add high end LF who gets a lot of value from his bat

- Figure out immediately why Bo Bichette is now a below average hitter. He has a 97 wRC+ in the last calendar year, and trending down. He also can't defend and is a liability on the bases. If they can't turn him around immediately, they're f***ed.

- Either fix George Springer immediately, or come to terms with the fact that he's cooked and immediately bring in a high-end RF.

- Acquire at least two late inning relievers.

 

Basically there are problems everywhere and they're not all going to be solved.

[Eat My Shatkins]

The problem facing Atkins is that it's not just a matter of adding a bat or two. Their bullpen has an ERA of almost 5 and there's literally no reliable arms after Garcia. And Bichette and Springer suck now. The path to looking like a contender is something like:

 

- Add high end LF who gets a lot of value from his bat

- Figure out immediately why Bo Bichette is now a below average hitter. He has a 97 wRC+ in the last calendar year, and trending down. He also can't defend and is a liability on the bases. If they can't turn him around immediately, they're f***ed.

- Either fix George Springer immediately, or come to terms with the fact that he's cooked and immediately bring in a high-end RF.

- Acquire at least two late inning relievers.

 

Basically there are problems everywhere and they're not all going to be solved.

 

 

But, if they'd have signed Teo and JDM though we'd be golden.

[Brownie19]

The problem facing Atkins is that it's not just a matter of adding a bat or two. Their bullpen has an ERA of almost 5 and there's literally no reliable arms after Garcia. And Bichette and Springer suck now. The path to looking like a contender is something like:

 

- Add high end LF who gets a lot of value from his bat

- Figure out immediately why Bo Bichette is now a below average hitter. He has a 97 wRC+ in the last calendar year, and trending down. He also can't defend and is a liability on the bases. If they can't turn him around immediately, they're f***ed.

- Either fix George Springer immediately, or come to terms with the fact that he's cooked and immediately bring in a high-end RF.

- Acquire at least two late inning relievers.

 

Basically there are problems everywhere and they're not all going to be solved.

 

You're just wasting your time man.

[gruber92]

Springer looks like he has officially transitioned into a fourth outfielder. His defence is still good but $25M annually for the next few seasons is tough. Ross needs to come to grips with it and do something about it. He just naturally declined with age, he had a good career.

[jaysblue]

The problem facing Atkins is that it's not just a matter of adding a bat or two. Their bullpen has an ERA of almost 5 and there's literally no reliable arms after Garcia. And Bichette and Springer suck now. The path to looking like a contender is something like:

 

- Add high end LF who gets a lot of value from his bat

- Figure out immediately why Bo Bichette is now a below average hitter. He has a 97 wRC+ in the last calendar year, and trending down. He also can't defend and is a liability on the bases. If they can't turn him around immediately, they're f***ed.

- Either fix George Springer immediately, or come to terms with the fact that he's cooked and immediately bring in a high-end RF.

- Acquire at least two late inning relievers.

 

Basically there are problems everywhere and they're not all going to be solved.

 

Yeah there are more problems around the roster this season other than just the lineup. If the lineup was somewhat addressed in the offseason, then they could have focused on adding to other areas like the bullpen or maybe making an upgrade on Springer.

 

Bullpens are always volatile and its tough to expect the same results from a bullpen year-to-year. Romano isn't as reliable, Green hasn't been that dominant of a reliever we expected him to be, Mayza has been awful and Swanson's season is a complete write-off. Garcia has been a blessing this season, and Richards/Pearson have been meh but decent. It would have been nice if Yariel moved to the pen after he returns from the IL, though he's likely needed in the rotation. Gotta hope Pearson takes his game to another level in the second half, Green can stay healthy and Romano isn't as bad moving forward. Add another arm or two via trade before the deadline would definitely help.

 

LF could have been addressed in the offseason. Someone with some pop like Teo, Pederson, O'Neill, Pham, Profar, Winker or someone via trade could have been had. Hoskins or JDM would have been better options as a DH over Turner. They didn't need a stud like Ohtani or Soto. Would have been nice, but wasn't the end of the world. After they lost out on Ohtani, focus should have been adding pop at LF/DH, and moving Varsho to CF.

 

Springer isn't getting fixed. I even said during the offseason he likely is an albatross given his age, injury history and contract.

 

I think Bo should turn things around. He's not this bad offensively, but the Jays and Bo need to figure things out before it's too late. They need Bo's bat to return.

 

Overall, let's say in a perfect world they signed bats like Hoskins/JDM to DH and Teo or Pederson for LF during the offseason, they likely are holding down WC3 even with these other issues plaguing the roster. Now their attention before the deadline could be adding two-late inning relievers, and looking to make an upgrade on Springer. Would have been less to do.

[jaysblue]

But, if they'd have signed Teo and JDM though we'd be golden.

 

Yeah it was impossible signing those guys. There was nothing Atkins could do!

[jaysblue]

You're just wasting your time man.

 

Nothing wrong with baseball discussion on a baseball forum. BTS actually responded very rationally and was respectful, unlike you who always blows a gasket when someone criticizes Atkins and then reverts to low level insults calling posters "tampons."

[jaysblue]

Springer looks like he has officially transitioned into a fourth outfielder. His defence is still good but $25M annually for the next few seasons is tough. Ross needs to come to grips with it and do something about it. He just naturally declined with age, he had a good career.

 

I wonder if there is a challenge trade that could be made, but doubt it.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Yeah it was impossible signing those guys. There was nothing Atkins could do!

 

The sarcasm went right over your (bone) head did it?