ST GDT: Blue Jays vs Phillies - Tiedemann ST Debut - March 9th 1:05 PM EST

[PitaBaby]

One too many heaters.

[Laika]

I guess the main concern aside from durability is fastball shape

 

Hopefully we get some stuff+ type data this spring on him

[The_DH]

His individual pitches are all incredible but I don't think he works them well in a sequencial way. He needs somebody to really analyze his pitches, movement and delivery to set up hitters better. Each hit off him were off good looking pitches but they almost seemed predictable.

[Daniel Labude]

One too many heaters.

 

When he is full go, you will see more changeups vs RHH. First outing was almost entirely fastball/slider

[John_Havok]

I guess the main concern aside from durability is fastball shape

 

Hopefully we get some stuff+ type data this spring on him

 

DOnt have the stuff+ but here's the raw numbers from savant

 

[John_Havok]

His individual pitches are all incredible but I don't think he works them well in a sequencial way. He needs somebody to really analyze his pitches, movement and delivery to set up hitters better. Each hit off him were off good looking pitches but they almost seemed predictable.

 

he;s not working on sequencing in his first ST start.

 

And if you dont think the Jays have guys that do exactly what you said, i dont know what you think these analytics departments and pitching lab guys do.

[philly30]

I am guessing in the history of spring training ,these two teams have played against each other more than anyone

[The_DH]

he;s not working on sequencing in his first ST start.

 

And if you dont think the Jays have guys that do exactly what you said, i dont know what you think these analytics departments and pitching lab guys do.

 

I kind of figured that he was just working on making the pitch happen as opposed to working the hitters. But I also thought maybe the analytics guys hadn't had a proper chance to work with him because of his arm soreness.

[Terminator]

[John_Havok]

I kind of figured that he was just working on making the pitch happen as opposed to working the hitters. But I also thought maybe the analytics guys hadn't had a proper chance to work with him because of his arm soreness.

 

That's all offseason stuff and yeah probably a little during ST. He wont even see the pitching lab once the season starts. He'll get theory reinforcement from the pitching coach or roving pitching instructors throughout the season.

[PitaBaby]

Richards is dealing.

[hanton]

Richards location is really good

[The_DH]

Some of Richard's pitches that were called balls looked an awful lot like strikes to me. Could be just the tv.

[John_Havok]

Some of Richard's pitches that were called balls looked an awful lot like strikes to me. Could be just the tv.

 

If its the up and down part.. its the TV. Following on baseball savant this ump has been calling a very good game. No missed calls on any of Richards pitches.

[John_Havok]

Jansen smoked that ball with an xBA of .800. Unlucky

[The_DH]

Yeah I figured it was tv. I figured the hitters should have been swinging more than they were.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Bases loaded single by Vlad, gets thrown out tryin to get 2nd out of it

[43211234]

Vlad is such a terrible baserunner

[hanton]

Poor awareness there by Vlady even with Schwarbers noodle arm, improve your damn base running

[John_Havok]

Poor awareness there by Vlady even with Schwarbers noodle arm, improve your damn base running

 

That's just it though, you have to know he has a noodle arm and is likely to have the ball either cut (like it was early in the game) or thrown directly to second most of the time. Take the wide turn for sure but he was 2/3rds of the way to 2b. That's a bit too wide.

[Laika]

Wes Parsons szn

[John_Havok]

Wow, very nice play by Vlad to make up for his stupidity on the bases.

 

That was pretty sick

[Laika]

 

Interesting

 

Need to check out the FB shape and compare it to some other good lefties

[hanton]

That's just it though, you have to know he has a noodle arm and is likely to have the ball either cut (like it was early in the game) or thrown directly to second most of the time. Take the wide turn for sure but he was 2/3rds of the way to 2b. That's a bit too wide.

 

Yes you're correct

 

I remember he used to routinely take the extra base in AAA, I automatically assumed he was a great baserunner - for doing so. but up here it seems like a lack of focus / baseball instinct or whatever - it's not good

[hanton]

IKF is lost at the plate, can't say it's surprising

[John_Havok]

 

SSS alert, but interesting

[Eat My Shatkins]

Is Parsons actually good?

 

F me this team has oodles of pitching with guys like Francis and White figuring it out, Parsons maybe even being something, RT, Yariel, Dallas starting AAA

 

Manoah was probably f***ed even if his shoulder wasn't FUBAR

[hanton]

Is Parsons actually good?

 

F me this team has oodles of pitching with guys like Francis and White figuring it out, Parsons maybe even being something, RT, Yariel, Dallas starting AAA

 

Manoah was probably f***ed even if his shoulder wasn't FUBAR

 

he's 31 years old, what u see is what you will get from him in season

[Eat My Shatkins]

Springer dinger!

[John_Havok]

I know it's early but Springer looks washed.

 

hmmmmmm