General mlb off season 23-24

[wamco]

So what’s the number we are thinking there is to spend this off-season ?

 

Without agreeing to somewhat of a number,

It makes the off season thread of who to sign/trade etc kind of a waste of time

 

After arbitration, I thought we have about 22m to spend in the off-season to get to this years payroll figure.

 

Do we expect it to approach the 40m to spend which puts us just under the 2nd cap (check my numbers please).

 

If so, I’d think about 32m to spend with 8 saved for deadline AS OF NOW Before cuts like Richards/Cimber/espinal etc as possibilities.

 

Tell me how to feel

[Laika]

So what’s the number we are thinking there is to spend this off-season ?

 

Without agreeing to somewhat of a number,

It makes the off season thread of who to sign/trade etc kind of a waste of time

 

After arbitration, I thought we have about 22m to spend in the off-season to get to this years payroll figure.

 

Do we expect it to approach the 40m to spend which puts us just under the 2nd cap (check my numbers please).

 

If so, I’d think about 32m to spend with 8 saved for deadline AS OF NOW Before cuts like Richards/Cimber/espinal etc as possibilities.

 

Tell me how to feel

 

your range seems right

[glory]

Man the FA class is gross.

 

I checked the list and yes, Whit Merrifield coming off 1.5 fWAR is actually the best 2B on the market. Unless you love Donovan Solano or think Amed Rosario will bounce back.

 

By 2023 WAR the best shortstop on the market is Elvis Andrus.

 

And then of course the top 3B are Chapman and Candelario. 3B is stacked compared to the MIF!

 

Belt and Carlos Santana are probably the top 1B.

 

The top OF are all fringe-average guys like KK, Soler, Pham, Duvall, Gurriel.

 

The only truly marquee free agents are Ohtani and a few SP. And I guess some closers.

 

Like, some of these top FA bats are just guys who will sign in January on one year deals...

 

Yeah seriously. It's hard to see how the Jays can use free agency and significantly improve on the position player side unless they blow their wad for Ohtani or Bellinger. Looking at the "dead cat bounce back" category, the only names that stand out to me are Tim Anderson, Michael Brantley, and Rhys Hoskins. Anderson stunk and Brantley/Hoskins were hurt in 2023 so maybe you can buy low and get surplus value there. Otherwise it does look like the Jays best options to fill position player spots will be internally or trade. Unless Atkins feels really secure with his job security then I don't think he goes too internal (maybe Schneider gets one spot and the rest filled externally), but who knows. I don't think anyone of us had Belt on our radars before Atkins signed him and it worked out so maybe something pops up. Thankfully the one thing Atkins does really well is big league transactions.

[Sorrow]

I think we have 40m or so after arb raises for FA this winter though I’ve seen rumblings as high as 50.

 

I think the Jays are going to make a play for the Korean OF who’s coming over

[L54]

I think 40M to spend is a fair estimate

[Spanky99]

I think we have 40m or so after arb raises for FA this winter though I’ve seen rumblings as high as 50.

 

I think the Jays are going to make a play for the Korean OF who’s coming over

 

Lee?

Edited November 3, 2023 by Spanky99

[L54]

Might as well sign some Asians because the current crop of FA’s suck ass

[Laika]

Yeah seriously. It's hard to see how the Jays can use free agency and significantly improve on the position player side unless they blow their wad for Ohtani or Bellinger. Looking at the "dead cat bounce back" category, the only names that stand out to me are Tim Anderson, Michael Brantley, and Rhys Hoskins. Anderson stunk and Brantley/Hoskins were hurt in 2023 so maybe you can buy low and get surplus value there. Otherwise it does look like the Jays best options to fill position player spots will be internally or trade. Unless Atkins feels really secure with his job security then I don't think he goes too internal (maybe Schneider gets one spot and the rest filled externally), but who knows. I don't think anyone of us had Belt on our radars before Atkins signed him and it worked out so maybe something pops up. Thankfully the one thing Atkins does really well is big league transactions.

 

I do think they will kind of do the same thing this offseason that they did for KK and Belt. Just wait it out and see who is left and willing to take a tolerable 1 year deal.

 

I would like them to get Hoskins on a pillow deal though. He could be a difference maker. A "big bat" like Christian Walker.

[Spanky99]

I do think they will kind of do the same thing this offseason that they did for KK and Belt. Just wait it out and see who is left and willing to take a tolerable 1 year deal.

 

I would like them to get Hoskins on a pillow deal though. He could be a difference maker. A "big bat" like Christian Walker.

 

Hey, I thought we had Rhys Hoskins in one babe Schneider.

[Laika]

Hey, I thought we had Rhys Hoskins in one babe Schneider.

 

Two would be even better!

[Spanky99]

Two would be even better!

 

Haha... I'm in.

[Spanky99]

Hoskins, Brantley, Green and Ryu, Git R Done... Ross!

[Laika]

I feel like Joc Pederson might as well just sign with Toronto for $8M and get it over with. Why wait all offseason to do it? It's prophecy.

[Spanky99]

Who signs Yamamoto, I'll roll with the Yankees?

[wamco]

I saw joc rumored at 1/13. What do LGJ and teo get?

 

My not final solution if only signing FA would be to trade vlad:

 

-sign bellinger , jd martinez, joc pederson and longoria which I think could be 36m (25 AAV for bellinger). Saves 10m for deadline if you cut Cimber and espinal.

[Ehjays]

[Ehjays]

Who signs Yamamoto, I'll roll with the Yankees?

 

Yeah, good guess I saythem as well, the Yankees were salivating all over him, but we know he will do well whoever wins the bid.

[Ehjays]

[Jimcanuck]

I'm on board with Bauer as a Jay

[Marew]

Bauer Is entertaining posts from almost everyone who is replying from all teams. He said he would sign with the dodgers.

 

1 team he would play for. Guessing Yankees or astros

[Ehjays]

I'm on board with Bauer as a Jay

 

Mookie Betts is in his corner, he thinks a team should sign him

 

[L54]

I can’t f***ing wait to see Bauer’s revenge tour 2024

[Stangstag]

Justin Turner declined his option with the Redsox. He could be a decent target

[Jays24]

I can’t f***ing wait to see Bauer’s revenge tour 2024

 

I'm on his side after the BS he went through. We're already stacked at SP so unless he comes cheap, I think the FO will elect to spend elsewhere. Also think they're too soft to sign him anyways lol.

[Jays24]

Offseason wishlist

 

RF Springer

SS Bo

DH/LF - Left handed bat through trade

1B Vlad

LF/DH Teo

CF Varsho - have to hope for a bounce back year

3B Chapman - Only if it's reasonable

C Kirk/Jansen

2B Biggio/Schneider platoon

 

SP - lose Ryu sucks but hope Manaoh takes that spot

 

BP - losing Hicks will suck since I can't see us paying him. Will hope Green is back and becomes our closer with Romano the setup guy.

[saskjayfan]

I'm on board with Bauer as a Jay

 

Yeah, me too. A year ago I would have been a no. Unfortunately Shatkins will be a no. I'd bring back Roberto Osuna too...lol.

[Ehjays]

Yamamoto may have pitched his last game in Japan, and not too shabby.

 

Yoshinobu Yamamoto Game 6 JAPAN SERIES Statline : 9 IP / 9 H / 1 R / 0 BB / 14 K (Japan Series Record) / 138 P

 

For a guy that just turned 25, he is gonna get paid.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Ehjays

[Ehjays]

[L54]

I'm on his side after the BS he went through. We're already stacked at SP so unless he comes cheap, I think the FO will elect to spend elsewhere. Also think they're too soft to sign him anyways lol.

 

Pal there ain’t no way he ends up in Toronto. My guess all along has been Houston and I still think that makes the most sense

[connorp]

Imagine if nobody else wants to pay him and he ends up going to Baltimore for like 1/4.