General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[Spanky99]

At least Bo might be back when first eligible...

 

Could return next Friday

Blue Jays manager John Schneider said Friday that Bichette (quad) could return from the 10-day injured list when first eligible Sept. 8, Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet.ca reports.

Advice: Bichette is traveling with the Blue Jays and did some running, hitting and light fielding work ahead of Friday's series opener at Colorado. The 25-year-old shortstop was just placed on the IL this past Tuesday after being diagnosed with a right quad strain, but the issue is apparently relatively minor. Ernie Clement has been filling in at short for Toronto.

 

Losing Jano blows though, damn!

[max silver]

At least Bo might be back when first eligible...

 

 

 

Losing Jano blows though, damn!

 

The poor dudes hands must look like they've been put through a trash compactor with the litany of hit by pitches and foul balls he's taken to the hands recently.

[max silver]

Yeah this is the time when Varsho being the backup C would be extremely useful.

 

Not sure why the front office refuses to play him there

 

Might have something to do with the fact that he's arguably MLB's best outfield defender.

[saskjayfan]

Schneider just said that Jansen has a minor fracture in his right middle finger. Get ready for some Heineman. s*** luck.

 

Should be back for playoffs, if they make it. Got to lean on Kirk. Good thing he's heating up, but a big loss for sure.

[jaysblue]

Don’t even say that or they’ll f***ing sweep us

 

Jordan f***ing Lyles with his 6.51 ERA shut down Boston last night haha. Love it!

[Stangstag]

All I want in life is for the Blue Jays to be the final Wild Card team

 

I need to watch Vlad groundout on the first pitch (a sinker down the f***ing middle) with the bases loaded in the playoffs

 

Fixed for you

[Stangstag]

Might have something to do with the fact that he's arguably MLB's best outfield defender.

 

Sure, but he’s mostly playing LF anyways and we have other guys we can slot there. Meanwhile our backup C options f***ing suck

[max silver]

Sure, but he’s mostly playing LF anyways and we have other guys we can slot there. Meanwhile our backup C options f***ing suck

 

Over the second half Varsho has seen his playing time split pretty evenly between left field and center field. I'm not sure it's worth the risk of having him taken out by injury to start him at catcher, especially with him not having seen any playing time there at all this season.

Edited September 2, 2023 by max silver

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Over the second half Varsho has seen his playing time split pretty evenly between left field and center field. I'm not sure it's worth the risk of having him taken out by injury to start him at catcher, especially with him not having seen any playing time there at all this season.

 

If most of all the other Jays hitters didnt have such s***ing hitting seasons no one would be bitching about Varsho!

[WryNGinger]

 

Why is pic so tiny? Ump score card from Angel last night. As bad as anyone that saw the game thought.

[hanton]

[Spanky99]

That's pretty damn bad Angel.

[Ehjays]

[Nursehoneybadger]

serious question, I have a Guerrero jersey as a gift from a family member out of province so I can't return it. Is the blue jays doing exchanges like how the rays are doing for Wander Franco? I'm willing to take any jersey really, doesn't even have to be a current Jay. It could be Jays who were DFA'd or released. Anyone who isn't actively harming the team. Manoah, Travis, Mitch White, Carlos Delgado, etc.

[Spanky99]

[BigCecil]

Man, like a lot of us do I feel bad for Jano. He seems to just get in a groove and another unlucky injury - Catching so tough on the body.

 

Just after he blasts a ball over 450 ft. Another big loss after a year of amazing Jays injury luck.

[hanton]

Man, like a lot of us do I feel bad for Jano. He seems to just get in a groove and another unlucky injury - Catching so tough on the body.

 

Just after he blasts a ball over 450 ft. Another big loss after a year of amazing Jays injury luck.

 

just watched the replay he's lucky it didn't destroy his entire hand, he messed up, his right hand is supposed to be back and behind him, I think he might have been anticipating a stolen base - still terribly unlucky

[John_Havok]

Ernie Clement - .5 fWAR in 25 PAs

 

Vlad Jr - .5 fWAR in 574 PAs

[Jimcanuck]

just watched the replay he's lucky it didn't destroy his entire hand, he messed up, his right hand is supposed to be back and behind him, I think he might have been anticipating a stolen base - still terribly unlucky

 

And he's been injured the same way before

[hanton]

Ernie Clement - .5 fWAR in 25 PAs

 

Vlad Jr - .5 fWAR in 574 PAs

 

lol

[John_Havok]

just watched the replay he's lucky it didn't destroy his entire hand, he messed up, his right hand is supposed to be back and behind him, I think he might have been anticipating a stolen base - still terribly unlucky

 

Wasn’t there a runner on base? If so, catchers generally don’t set up with their throwing hand behind them as it makes it more difficult if they need to block a ball in the dirt or try to throw someone out

[hanton]

Wasn’t there a runner on base? If so, catchers generally don’t set up with their throwing hand behind them as it makes it more difficult if they need to block a ball in the dirt or try to throw someone out

 

yes 1st and 2nd with 2 out, yea I mentioned that in my post. Every catcher is different, could still place it up against his hip or down next to his knee instead it as completely exposed

[L54]

Kevin Gausman vs Chase Anderson tomorrow. If we can’t win that game we’re screwed

[jaysthebest]

Vlad Jr - One of the most disappointing busts in the Blue Jays history. This guy had a 70 overall value in 20-80 scouting scale, but keeps finding a way to disappoint fans.

[BigCecil]

Yep. I hope the splitter splits at Coors.

 

Going into this "weak schedule" stretch Buck (I know I know) said we needed to go 12-3. Its like a bad dream we are 4-4. This team will drive you mad.

 

We have to start today stringing together W's. TEX is a good team - expect them to pull out of this swoon. Same for HOU.

 

SEA is unconscious - JROD stepping up. Compared to Vlad's .375 slug - Teo slugging .636 .355 avg with 8 bombs/26 RBIs his last 30 games. Just sayin' not sayin'

[deanmike]

Ernie Clement - .5 fWAR in 25 PAs

 

Vlad Jr - .5 fWAR in 574 PAs

 

Vlad's fWAR is being heavily inflated by his DH appearances because he doesn't have to play defense. The guy who created ZiPS thinks he is probably going to have to become a full-time DH soon because his defense is that bad already. Vlad only has 0.1 fWAR in 452 PA at 1B this year, and 0.3 fWAR in 126 PA at DH.

 

Ever since his early season wrist injury, he has -0.5 fWAR in 430 PA since returning from that injury on May 9th. The guy is a straight up below-replacement level bum now.

[jaysblue]

With the Rangers literally in free fall, if the Jays don't take the 3rd WC spot especially with one of the easiest schedules, what a huge disappointment.

[jaysblue]

Yep. I hope the splitter splits at Coors.

 

Going into this "weak schedule" stretch Buck (I know I know) said we needed to go 12-3. Its like a bad dream we are 4-4. This team will drive you mad.

 

We have to start today stringing together W's. TEX is a good team - expect them to pull out of this swoon. Same for HOU.

 

SEA is unconscious - JROD stepping up. Compared to Vlad's .375 slug - Teo slugging .636 .355 avg with 8 bombs/26 RBIs his last 30 games. Just sayin' not sayin'

 

There is something fundamentally wrong with this roster and group overall. It's been super frustrating, but serious changes will have to be made this offseason to the roster and coaching staff. This team and FO just aren't as good as some people think. Another wasted opportunity in 2023 from the looks of it unfortunately.

[RustyTrombone]

There is something fundamentally wrong with this roster and group overall. It's been super frustrating, but serious changes will have to be made this offseason to the roster and coaching staff. This team and FO just aren't as good as some people think. Another wasted opportunity in 2023 from the looks of it unfortunately.

 

This is hardly the FO fault. This season is completely on 3 players: Vlad, Manoah, and Kirk. No one else is to blame for this season. All three have hit like their 10th percentile projections, maybe even worse. If these three tubs of lard had even hit their average projections we are probably leading the division.

[BigCecil]

There is something fundamentally wrong with this roster and group overall. It's been super frustrating, but serious changes will have to be made this offseason to the roster and coaching staff. This team and FO just aren't as good as some people think. Another wasted opportunity in 2023 from the looks of it unfortunately.

 

I f***ing hope not. I still have some hope. So much depends on Vlad doing damage.

 

20 - Blown out in playoffs

21 - Miss playoffs by a game

22 - All time epic Jays playoff meltdown

23 - ?

 

Glass half full we are in the hunt every year.

 

Glass half empty WTF. This is the 7th highest payroll and 11th oldest team in baseball with a narrowing window (arguably) and we haven't so much as won one playoff game (not that that would suffice).