Masterbather Verified Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 https://umpscorecards.com/single_umpire/?name=Angel+Hernandez Both teams should refuse to take the field whenever this guy is umping. It's actually becoming criminal at this point. This f***er shouldn't have a job, The most insulting part is his cluelessness, he has the audacity to think he deserves more. This ******* thinks he's good at his job, despite all subjective and objective reality and facts.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 https://umpscorecards.com/single_umpire/?name=Angel+Hernandez Both teams should refuse to take the field whenever this guy is umping. I just wonder how their contracts work, like, why can’t MLB just not offer him a contract once his current one runs out? I’d love to get a look at how mlb umpires employment actually works.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 It's actually becoming criminal at this point. This f***er shouldn't have a job, The most insulting part is his cluelessness, he has the audacity to think he deserves more. This ******* thinks he's good at his job, despite all subjective and objective reality and facts. It’s disgusting to think his salary is ~430K
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I just wonder how their contracts work, like, why can’t MLB just not offer him a contract once his current one runs out? I’d love to get a look at how mlb umpires employment actually works. Union.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 It’s disgusting to think his salary is ~430K Plus the awesome benefits, pension, and travel perk/per diems. Good gig to say the least.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 Union. Well, yeah, I know that. I just mean do umpires sign contracts on a year to year basis? Two year deals, 3 year deals? Why can’t they just not offer him a contract as an umpire next season?
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Well, yeah, I know that. I just mean do umpires sign contracts on a year to year basis? Two year deals, 3 year deals? Why can’t they just not offer him a contract as an umpire next season? MLB has a contact with the umpire union I believe. He’s part of that union. MLB doesn’t have an individual contract with each umpire.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 MLB has a contact with the umpire union I believe. He’s part of that union. MLB doesn’t have an individual contract with each umpire. Yikes. No wonder they can’t get rid of him.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Try watching the game BTS...you can't watch it on fangraphs. I’ve watched maybe 10 jays games this year. They’re probably like my 25th most watched team.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Yikes. No wonder they can’t get rid of him. Seems like MLB can only control who umps bigger games, like the World Series, maybe even playoffs? Hernandez tried suing MLB for racism because he wasn’t getting any playoff assignments.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 Seems like MLB can only control who umps bigger games, like the World Series, maybe even playoffs? Hernandez tried suing MLB for racism because he wasn’t getting any playoff assignments. Yeah that was a while ago, he also alleged he was passed over for being promoted to being a crew chief. He lost, then appealed, and lost the appeal also “Hernández has failed to establish a statistically significant disparity between the promotion rates of white and minority umpires,” the 2nd Circuit said in an 11-page decision. “MLB has provided persuasive expert evidence demonstrating that, during the years at issue, the difference in crew chief promotion rates between white and minority umpires was not statistically significant. Hernández offers no explanation as to why MLB’s statistical evidence is unreliable.”
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Seems like MLB can only control who umps bigger games, like the World Series, maybe even playoffs? Hernandez tried suing MLB for racism because he wasn’t getting any playoff assignments. Hahaha are you serious? Was it an all white crew that year in the post season? Good riddance
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Author Posted September 29, 2023 Hahaha are you serious? Was it an all white crew that year in the post season? Good riddance Yeah he legit sued MLB in 2017 because he hadn’t been given a World Series spot since 2005 and saying he should have also been promoted to crew chief and wasn’t because MLB wasn’t promoting minorities.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Yeah that was a while ago, he also alleged he was passed over for being promoted to being a crew chief. He lost, then appealed, and lost the appeal also “Hernández has failed to establish a statistically significant disparity between the promotion rates of white and minority umpires,” the 2nd Circuit said in an 11-page decision. “MLB has provided persuasive expert evidence demonstrating that, during the years at issue, the difference in crew chief promotion rates between white and minority umpires was not statistically significant. Hernández offers no explanation as to why MLB’s statistical evidence is unreliable.” I can't imagine how much Manfred wants to fire him
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Hahaha are you serious? Was it an all white crew that year in the post season? Good riddance I don’t think. https://apnews.com/article/angel-hernandez-umpire-lawsuit-mlb-5d93ce0aad91b748649ce5e128ad83f9 “MLB has provided persuasive expert evidence demonstrating that, during the years at issue, the difference in crew chief promotion rates between white and minority umpires was not statistically significant. Hernández offers no explanation as to why MLB’s statistical evidence is unreliable.” He alleged he was discriminated against because he had not been assigned to the World Series since 2005 and had been passed over for crew chief. He had three calls at first base overturned in video reviews during Game 3 of the 2018 AL Division Series between the New York Yankees and Boston. Thank god for video review. Now we just need strike/ball challenges.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I don’t think. https://apnews.com/article/angel-hernandez-umpire-lawsuit-mlb-5d93ce0aad91b748649ce5e128ad83f9 Thank god for video review. Now we just need strike/ball challenges. And swing/checked swing apparently
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 And swing/checked swing apparently Should be a reviewable play now. Like a HBP.
Laika Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 We *probably* want the Astros to sweep Arizona so Toronto ends up as the final WC team Texas will win tonight.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 We *probably* want the Astros to sweep Arizona so Toronto ends up as the final WC team Texas will win tonight. I wonder if the Rays tank this weekend so they play the Jays and not the Astros.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Adolis Garcia wearing a balaclava in 12C weather is hilarious, but he got a HR at least. I'd love to see him when it's actually cold out.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 I’ve watched maybe 10 jays games this year. They’re probably like my 25th most watched team. Fake fan
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Fake fan Very unfair. I don't even fake it.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Aroldis Chapman f***ing suuuuucks
Masterbather Verified Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Holy cow Chapman Dude is a f***ing enigma
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Very unfair. I don't even fake it. Lol that’s fine im just joking. Clearly you’re a general baseball fan. Do you live close enough to actually go to the dome regularly?
glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Chapman ruining what could have been a great night for the Jays.
BTS Community Moderator Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Lol that’s fine im just joking. Clearly you’re a general baseball fan. Do you live close enough to actually go to the dome regularly? I'm in Ottawa. Try to make it to the Rogers Centre once a year. Really, the biggest death blow was Rogers deciding to black games out on mlb.tv a few years ago.
Zacman Verified Member Posted September 29, 2023 Posted September 29, 2023 Chapman ruining what could have been a great night for the Jays. Think positively! They tie, waste bullpen and lose. Or they just lose!
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