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John_Havok

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Yeah the Braves are so well put together. AA inherited a lot going there but man has he put them in a great spot for a long run.
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Yeah the Braves are so well put together. AA inherited a lot going there but man has he put them in a great spot for a long run.

 

Sure has. They are looking like the new Astros

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Yeah the Braves are so well put together. AA inherited a lot going there but man has he put them in a great spot for a long run.

 

The AA FO deserves full credit for the current state of the team:

 

- drafting and developing Strider and Harris II

- cheap extensions for Acuna, Harris, Albies

- acquiring Murphy for almost nothing, then locking him up

- acquiring Olson for almost nothing, then locking him up (they haven't really benefited yet from replacing Freeman, but the 4-year age difference could make a huge difference soon)

- not just acquiring Olrando Arcia, but extending him for dirt cheap before he put up a 4-win season that probably no other org in baseball thought it was capable of

 

And then a bunch of smaller ones: the Morton signing, signing Donaldson for a year then letting him walk after a 5-win season, bringing Iglesias in etc...

 

And the craziest thing is that a couple years ago they were supposed to be built around their young rotation of Fried, Soroka, Anderson, and Wright. Three of those guys have died and Fried has missed most of the year, and they're still going to win like 105 games.

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How did that big f***er Bautista just figure out his command this past year? Dude's insane.

 

108 K's in 56.1 innings. Crazy! Has a chance to reach 150 K's.

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The Braves are so good it's hard to believe we ran AA out of town and chastised him to boot.

 

It's comical.

 

This is like the pirates complaining about trading away Jose Bautista.

 

How many years was AA here and how many playoff appearances did we have?

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This is like the pirates complaining about trading away Jose Bautista.

 

How many years was AA here and how many playoff appearances did we have?

 

2 if you count 2016 since it was mostly AA's core in place.

 

2 trips to the ALCS, where the Jays were within striking distance of reaching the World Series for the first time since 1993. As well, making the Postseason in the old WC format which was more difficult than now. Maybe in 2014, the Jays add more at the deadline if it was the same WC format currently.

 

AA brought the Jays closer to a World Series in a shorter time period more than Atkins has done in a longer period here. AA brought excitement back to Toronto with their Postseason runs, and that was integral after years of missing the Postseason. You could argue if it wasn't for AA, Blue Jays baseball wouldn't be as popular as it is today across the country!

 

Atkins still has this season, 2024 and 2025, so he still has a window, though so far none of his teams have won a Postseason series (again not including the 2016 season), let alone a Postseason game.

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This is like the pirates complaining about trading away Jose Bautista.

 

How many years was AA here and how many playoff appearances did we have?

This. Many of these posts are pathetic.

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This is like the pirates complaining about trading away Jose Bautista.

 

How many years was AA here and how many playoff appearances did we have?

 

Yup. Here, AA assembled teams by trading for expensive free agent contracts and crossing his fingers. He built an old team with no organizational depth. The jays under him were not particularly well-run.

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Yup. Here, AA assembled teams by trading for expensive free agent contracts and crossing his fingers. He built an old team with no organizational depth. The jays under him were not particularly well-run.

 

AA's teams came closer to a World Series than Atkins teams have during a period where it was tougher to make the Postseason. He put together a team in 2015 that actually looked like a World Series contender.

 

AA made mistakes along the way. For sure he wasn't perfect here. Some of his trades didn't pan out, but it's not like the organization lost sleep after that huge Marlins trade before the 2013 season. Also, at the time many FAs didn't want to sign here, so the trading route was a way for the Jays to add big names.

 

Where is the organizational depth of the Jays now by the way?

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AA's teams came closer to a World Series than Atkins teams have during a period where it was tougher to make the Postseason. He put together a team in 2015 that actually looked like a World Series contender.

 

AA made mistakes along the way. For sure he wasn't perfect here. Some of his trades didn't pan out, but it's not like the organization lost sleep after that huge Marlins trade before the 2013 season. Also, at the time many FAs didn't want to sign here, so the trading route was a way for the Jays to add big names.

 

Where is the organizational depth of the Jays now by the way?

 

The Ruben Amaro method doesn't work very well.

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The Ruben Amaro method doesn't work very well.

 

Also Dombrowski. Winning/getting close to a WS isn’t that impressive when a team opens up a short contention window to do it.

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