Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 This f***ing blocking the plate rule is so totally ambiguous and referenced that nobody knows what the call should be . The problem is different umpires calling it from the replay room each night, so there will be some inconsistencies. Clearly the Umps have made a point to enforce the “blocking” rule more strictly this season because we’ve seen this several times already
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 Pitching gave this game away with all their free passes. No doubt. Free AB's kill.
JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 but...he didn't block anything? He didn't put any body part in front of home plate. Lets not forget who has the final say... from New York
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 This rule needs to be taken out! It's absolutely ridiculous! What exactly was Kirk suppose to do there? Imagine if a call like this costs a team a playoff game or worse yet decides the World Series. Way to ambiguous of a rule. Even when.the Jays benefited against the Twins I thought it was stupid. Kirk could have stayed inside the foul line and fielded the ball just fine but he chose not too
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 No doubt. Free AB's kill. Yup we literally have more hits than the Os tonight but 4 less runs. And they dont even have any homeruns I think?
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 but...he didn't block anything? He didn't put any body part in front of home plate. My dude you need your eyes checked
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 lol you first spanky, I didn't start this drama you did Meh...
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 This f***ing blocking the plate rule is so totally ambiguous and referenced that nobody knows what the call should be . I know I don't.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 but...he didn't block anything? He didn't put any body part in front of home plate. Holy f*** guys I didn't say I agreed with it. They are almost always debatable. We won a game in part because of a call on these dumb blocking the lane rules that went our way. Nothing we can do about it except win tomorrow.
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 Stop being homers for a second and notice that Kirk starts inside the line, crab walks over the foul line and straddles the plate for a good while, then goes outside the line to catch the ball. He's standing up. The plate is clearly visible to the runner at all times. There is nothing resembling an attempt to block the plate during any part of that sequence. I get that you want to portray yourself as the level headed contrarian, but this isn't the time to do it. You come across like a complete and total idiot.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 2 more line drives to the wall for Vlad. Thats 6 in 4 games
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 Stop being homers for a second and notice that Kirk starts inside the line, crab walks over the foul line and straddles the plate for a good while, then goes outside the line to catch the ball. I'm not being a homer. I clearly don't understand the rule (which I said). A 2nd baseman is allowed to straddle the bag to catch the call, why can't the catcher as long as he doesn't drop and block the plate (with his armor on) after he catches the ball? I realize the rule may not allow for that - but that's what I think is stupid. If Kirk does what he did and then drops and blocks the plate, then I'm all for that being against the rules - but he moves out of the way and tags him like a middle infielder would. Seems like a standard baseball play to me. MLB needs to fix this.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 He's standing up. The plate is clearly visible to the runner at all times. There is nothing resembling an attempt to block the plate during any part of that sequence. I get that you want to portray yourself as the level headed contrarian, but this isn't the time to do it. You come across like a complete and total idiot. lol
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 Holy f*** guys I didn't say I agreed with it. They are almost always debatable. We won a game in part because of a call on these dumb blocking the lane rules that went our way. Nothing we can do about it except win tomorrow. IMO, we ought to have won the game v. the Twins because Sanchez DID block the plate after catching it - which IMO, is BS. Can't block it at all if the player can't drop the shoulder on you. Kirk literally moved out of the way to apply a standard tag. All good BC - I'm not arguing with you, I was just playing off your "live by the block, die by the block" because IMO, Kirk didn't block anything because he moves out of the way before the runner arrives. Oh well - not a great game, time to put it behind us!
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 2 more line drives to the wall for Vlad. Thats 6 in 4 games He and Chappy want to get out of here, win the series tomorrow and move on.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 IMO, we ought to have won the game v. the Twins because Sanchez DID block the plate after catching it - which IMO, is BS. Can't block it at all if the player can't drop the shoulder on you. Kirk literally moved out of the way to apply a standard tag. All good BC - I'm not arguing with you, I was just playing off your "live by the block, die by the block" because IMO, Kirk didn't block anything because he moves out of the way before the runner arrives. Oh well - not a great game, time to put it behind us! If you have the ball you can sit on the plate
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 IMO, we ought to have won the game v. the Twins because Sanchez DID block the plate after catching it - which IMO, is BS. Can't block it at all if the player can't drop the shoulder on you. Kirk literally moved out of the way to apply a standard tag. All good BC - I'm not arguing with you, I was just playing off your "live by the block, die by the block" because IMO, Kirk didn't block anything because he moves out of the way before the runner arrives. Oh well - not a great game, time to put it behind us! This.
Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 He and Chappy want to get out of here, win the series tomorrow and move on. Just hope they don't warn teams before the game
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 This is the only rule I understand you PaNzIes!
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 I'm not being a homer. I clearly don't understand the rule (which I said). A 2nd baseman is allowed to straddle the bag to catch the call, why can't the catcher as long as he doesn't drop and block the plate (with his armor on) after he catches the ball? I realize the rule may not allow for that - but that's what I think is stupid. If Kirk does what he did and then drops and blocks the plate, then I'm all for that being against the rules - but he moves out of the way and tags him like a middle infielder would. Seems like a standard baseball play to me. MLB needs to fix this. I agree they need to be more clear on what is a violation and what isn’t
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 IMO, we ought to have won the game v. the Twins because Sanchez DID block the plate after catching it - which IMO, is BS. Can't block it at all if the player can't drop the shoulder on you. Kirk literally moved out of the way to apply a standard tag. All good BC - I'm not arguing with you, I was just playing off your "live by the block, die by the block" because IMO, Kirk didn't block anything because he moves out of the way before the runner arrives. Oh well - not a great game, time to put it behind us! It was a facetious comment thats more reflective of my view the rule is too open to subjective and inconsistent interpretation. As I recall the Twins and their fans who lit up twitter and message boards didn't see it our way. No worries. Win tomorrow.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 If you have the ball you can sit on the plate And I think that should be eliminated. It would make this rule very clear.....can't block the plate (or any base), but you can catch the ball and stand wherever the f*** you want at any point (just like you can at 2nd base)...
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 It was a facetious comment thats more reflective of my view the rule is too open to subjective and inconsistent interpretation. As I recall the Twins and their didn't see it our way. No worries. Win tomorrow. Yeah that's how I took it man. I knew it wasn't your opinion on it. We're on the same page brother. Tomorrow's another day.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 2 more line drives to the wall for Vlad. Thats 6 in 4 games Yeah just missed earlier in the 6th/7th inning. Would have been a completely different game if that one went out and we had the lead there. Ah well, that’s how baseball goes sometimes
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 This is the only rule I understand you PaNzIes! lol... I killed a lot of catchers in my day.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 IMO, we ought to have won the game v. the Twins because Sanchez DID block the plate after catching it - which IMO, is BS. Can't block it at all if the player can't drop the shoulder on you. Kirk literally moved out of the way to apply a standard tag. All good BC - I'm not arguing with you, I was just playing off your "live by the block, die by the block" because IMO, Kirk didn't block anything because he moves out of the way before the runner arrives. Oh well - not a great game, time to put it behind us! I would argue he blocked the plate before he has the ball though. That was the violation I think. He was literally standing in front of the plate as Rutschman is trying to decide where to slide
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 This is the only rule I understand you PaNzIes! lol... I killed a lot of catchers in my day. This was during an All-Star game LOLOLOL! Look at the third base coach clapping in the background:cool:
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted September 7, 2022 Author Posted September 7, 2022 And I think that should be eliminated. It would make this rule very clear.....can't block the plate (or any base), but you can catch the ball and stand wherever the f*** you want at any point (just like you can at 2nd base)... Yeah, which Kirk did, and as you say the rule is lame.
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