Daniel Labude Jays Centre Contributor Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 .510 xBA...just right at them
harvey16 Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I have absolutely zero confidence in Vlad with runners in scoring position with 2 outs. Seems like he grounds out every time! He doesn't seem to perform well under pressure.
GogetemJays Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Still a few innings to play to win it but man if Vlad and Bo don’t start being patient and getting a good pitches to hit this team is going nowhere. They are up there hacking at everything. Hurting their team. Pitchers know it. It’s a bad approach.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Exactly, they still don’t get patience at the plate and they don’t have anyone preaching patience. Just terrible swings. You don’t know they have nobody preaching patience, don’t make things up. Stick with the bad plate appearances opinion, at least its demonstrably true in this last half inning.
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Still a few innings to play to win it but man if Vlad and Bo don’t start being patient and getting a good pitches to hit this team is going nowhere. They are up there hacking at everything. Hurting their team. Pitchers know it. It’s a bad approach. Yeah very undisciplined, swing happy at balls. Need to learn from it
gruber92 Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 How much longer will Martinez be employed here? Those are some bad approaches with no plan. f***..
GogetemJays Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Is it a good HITTING lineup? I think we know by now what this team is hitting wise. They lack patience. They are what they are. It’s not a great offense. It’s been all over the place all year. It is what it is. Hot or cold.
MON4NHLTOR4MLB Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Completely blown opportunity
GogetemJays Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I agree. Hitting has gotten worse. Patience doesn’t seemed to be preached or at least they are afraid to hurt the players feelings if suggested.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Hate Cimber against lefties in leverage.
bones10 Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 How does cimber literally ever get a lefty out lol
Solaxys Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Author Posted August 21, 2022 Kirk called the same pitch twice in a row when the first pitch was clobbered.
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Kirk called the same pitch twice in a row when the first pitch was clobbered. He can shake and I doubt he wanted it there!
Dagagad Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Is it a good HITTING lineup? I think we know by now what this team is hitting wise. They lack patience. They are what they are. It’s not a great offense. It’s been all over the place all year. It is what it is. Hot or cold. 6th in WRC+ and higher in some other categories. I don’t know what qualifies as great but near to top 5 is probably close to great. I’d agree that if 3/4 guys improved their plate discipline, then it could be a number one offense. I’m not sure what the problem is with vlad. He’s demonstrated a good eye before. So, he knows he’s swinging at balls. Not sure what the hitting coach can do if vlad just wants to swing at balls.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Kirk called the same pitch twice in a row when the first pitch was clobbered. Yeah idk what the f*** they were thinking
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 How much longer will Martinez be employed here? Those are some bad approaches with no plan. f***.. Probably as long as he keeps the offense to the fifth best hitting in the MLB.
GogetemJays Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Happens everytime a team let’s a team off the hook. Would everyone agree Vladdy’s season has been pretty poor this year? It just doesn’t have that same feel when he comes to the plate and he looks disinterested or that it’s no big deal that he misses opportunities. I still hope they come in with a manager that has a winning. Attitude and no nonsense approach. This goofy playtime attitude just looks bad.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Kirk called the same pitch twice in a row when the first pitch was clobbered. I don't think slider down the pipe is what Kirk had in mind with that pitch call.
5ToolPhenom Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Well, can't complain about 3 out of 4 against the Yankees
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I don't think slider down the pipe is what Kirk had in mind with that pitch call. You mean one of the buttons on his pitchcom remote isn't labeled CM (cement mixer)?
GogetemJays Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 It’s so hot and come though. It really means nothing when you have games where they score 28 runs and then struggle at other times to get a couple of runs. That’s why they are only 11 games above .500 and can’t climb higher. I hate it when people bring up that stat. The offense for the most part has been so disjointed.
Dagagad Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Probably as long as he keeps the offense to the fifth best hitting in the MLB. Eno Sarris on his podcast said that basically the only measurable thing hitting coaches have been shown to improve is plate discipline. I could see an argument for getting someone who has proven success at that. But then again, maybe Martinez has done a good job at that overall. I haven’t went through the numbers year to year. Gurriel for example seems to have a better approach this year.
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Calling back to back sliders to a lefty was puzzling oh well
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I don't think slider down the pipe is what Kirk had in mind with that pitch call. Still a dangerous pitch to call again after he destroyed the previous one. Miss your spot and… THAT happens
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 It’s so hot and come though. It really means nothing when you have games where they score 28 runs and then struggle at other times to get a couple of runs. That’s why they are only 11 games above .500 and can’t climb higher. I hate it when people bring up that stat. The offense for the most part has been so disjointed. I bet you are giggling to yourself trying to hook some marks on the troll.
Dagagad Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 It’s so hot and come though. It really means nothing when you have games where they score 28 runs and then struggle at other times to get a couple of runs. That’s why they are only 11 games above .500 and can’t climb higher. I hate it when people bring up that stat. The offense for the most part has been so disjointed. They could have this exact offense with better pitching and be more than 11 games over 500.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 They could have this exact offense with better pitching and be more than 11 games over 500. Something as simple as Berrios not being an absolute pumpkin for half his starts. Or Kikuchi giving us a fighting chance.
Dagagad Verified Member Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I bet you are giggling to yourself trying to hook some marks on the troll. Ah, he’s trolling. Never mind.
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