GDT 1/4 | Blue Jays (35-24) vs. Orioles (26-35) | June 13 - 7:07 PM ET

[Stangstag]

I'm a stubborn fan that still feels there's a ~.800 ops, 2-3 war player in there, that's really had bad luck with injuries. Cavan is still in prime years, and has one elite skill. It really wouldn't take much to build value around that.

 

That’s not stubborn at all. Cavan has a longer timeframe of being good in the majors (2019-2020) than he does being bad (2021, playing out of position).

 

He’s still useful, has a role to play as a backup 1B/2B/LF/RF left handed bat with a great eye/OBP.

[Terminator]

Hmm is Biggio back? His 2022 statcast page is starting to look like his 2019 season when he was actually good. He's been terrible against fastballs in '20 and '21. The results aren't there this year either with a .167 BA and .222 SLG against 4-seamers but his xBA and xSLG against them is .286/.503. Even better than what he did in '09.

 

He's been hitting really well since his return by slashing .306/.457/.444 since he got back and that's not including today's 1/3 with a triple and a walk. Jays giving him 5 straight starts with Chapman hurt for some of those games so they might be seeing something as well.

[Spanky99]

Hmm is Biggio back? His 2022 statcast page is starting to look like his 2019 season when he was actually good. He's been terrible against fastballs in '20 and '21. The results aren't there this year either with a .167 BA and .222 SLG against 4-seamers but his xBA and xSLG against them is .286/.503. Even better than what he did in '09.

 

He's been hitting really well since his return by slashing .306/.457/.444 since he got back and that's not including today's 1/3 with a triple and a walk. Jays giving him 5 straight starts with Chapman hurt for some of those games so they might be seeing something as well.

 

His hard hit rate was up there last I checked, wRC+ 106 for May, well over 200 for June, he's just healthy again. Last year was a blip, injury ridiculed season. Never a doubt.

 

P.S.Yer dumn.

[Spanky99]

Orioles got rekt.

[Terminator]

His hard hit rate was up there last I checked, wRC+ 106 for May, well over 200 for June, he's just healthy again. Last year was a blip, injury ridiculed season. Never a doubt.

 

P.S.Yer dumn.

 

Watch it, meat. He was a slap hitting bitch in 2020 as well he just got lucky in the short season. So that's two years his back has been jacked and now he's back?

[Spanky99]

Watch it, meat. He was a slap hitting bitch in 2020 as well he just got lucky in the short season. So that's two years his back has been jacked and now he's back?

 

Does he not look healthy to you? Looks like the Biggio we had before to me. The Dumn comment was about your Smallgio trolling, so lame, lol.

[glory]

A super utility role is a great spot for Biggio if his bounce back is legit. He will still get a bunch of playing time in that role and he’s a much needed LH bat.

[Stangstag]

Watch it, meat. He was a slap hitting bitch in 2020 as well he just got lucky in the short season. So that's two years his back has been jacked and now he's back?

 

122 wRC+ in 2020 and 1.2 WAR in 59 games…

 

Yeah 2021 was a down year for him. He’s back.

[Deadpool]

https://streamable.com/g79yl1

 

Springer's imitation of Montoyo's run.

 

Put this in the clips thread.

[Laika]

I'd be happy if Biggio was just a useful player. .230/.320 with a bit of pop and some defensive use.

 

He doesn't have to be back

 

Team sorely needs a lefty who can provide a good at bat

 

I want them to throw him in CF see what happens

[Deadpool]

I'd be happy if Biggio was just a useful player. .230/.320 with a bit of pop and some defensive use.

 

He doesn't have to be back

 

Team sorely needs a lefty who can provide a good at bat

 

I want them to throw him in CF see what happens

 

His career slash line is .234/.356. If he's only OBPing .320 (assuming that was the slash you were going for) he's having an incredibly down year for him (like last year when he was .322). He's OBPing .372 this year, and that seems to be his true-talent level for OBP. Once they go roboumps, that could get even higher. And, as was said by someone else earlier in this thread (I think) banning the shift will seriously help him as well (though I'm not in favour of that particular rule over all).

 

Also, everyone in this thread was just dreading the Tilapia ABs, and just ignoring that he's on arguably the best hot streak of his career right now. 143 wRC+ since the start of this run of great games (May 24th). He's on f***in' fire. And the push-ups after sliding in to home is the best ballplayer gimmick since Edwin taking the parrot for a walk.

[Spanky99]

Espy's 21st in MLB fWAR at 2, lol... think about that. *mind blown gif*

[Laika]

His career slash line is .234/.356. If he's only OBPing .320 (assuming that was the slash you were going for) he's having an incredibly down year for him (like last year when he was .322). He's OBPing .372 this year, and that seems to be his true-talent level for OBP. Once they go roboumps, that could get even higher. And, as was said by someone else earlier in this thread (I think) banning the shift will seriously help him as well (though I'm not in favour of that particular rule over all).

 

Also, everyone in this thread was just dreading the Tilapia ABs, and just ignoring that he's on arguably the best hot streak of his career right now. 143 wRC+ since the start of this run of great games (May 24th). He's on f***in' fire. And the push-ups after sliding in to home is the best ballplayer gimmick since Edwin taking the parrot for a walk.

 

in 2018 and 2019 he had a 16% walk rate with a .190 ISO and he hit 24 HR in 159 combined games

 

this year he has an 18% walk rate but a .113 ISO with no homers in 27 games

 

I am very skeptical that he will be able to maintain an elite walk rate if he keeps failing to demonstrate the ability to hit for power. Teams will challenge him more and more. I think he might have to sell out a bit for some pop, basically. Just a tiny bit. No huge changes.

 

Like the triple last night - first pitch of the PA. How often does CB swing at pitch #1?

[Deadpool]

in 2018 and 2019 he had a 16% walk rate with a .190 ISO and he hit 24 HR in 159 combined games

 

this year he has an 18% walk rate but a .113 ISO with no homers in 27 games

 

I am very skeptical that he will be able to maintain an elite walk rate if he keeps failing to demonstrate the ability to hit for power. Teams will challenge him more and more. I think he might have to sell out a bit for some pop, basically. Just a tiny bit. No huge changes.

 

Like the triple last night - first pitch of the PA. How often does CB swing at pitch #1?

 

He seems to be maintaining his doubles power, but not getting those wall scraper homers. His xSLG is .406 though, which is only down ~20 points from his 2019/2020 SLG. His barrel% and hard hit% are above his career numbers, and his EV and max EV are right about his career norms. It looks like the process is still good, but as a lot of us predicted the shittier ball is having an impact.

 

Depending on playing time, I think we see ~3 WAR from Biggio at the end of the season.

[Terminator]

122 wRC+ in 2020 and 1.2 WAR in 59 games…

 

Yeah 2021 was a down year for him. He’s back.

 

His xBA/xSLG in 2020 was .214/.343. He had garbage exit velocity and one of the worst Hard Hit % in baseball that year.

[Brownie19]

Espy's 21st in MLB fWAR at 2, lol... think about that. *mind blown gif*

 

Think about this Spank...Brandon Drury is 38th

[Spanky99]

Think about this Spank...Brandon Drury is 38th

 

I know, dude's having a career year, where was that with the Birds, lol.

[Laika]

He seems to be maintaining his doubles power, but not getting those wall scraper homers. His xSLG is .406 though, which is only down ~20 points from his 2019/2020 SLG. His barrel% and hard hit% are above his career numbers, and his EV and max EV are right about his career norms. It looks like the process is still good, but as a lot of us predicted the shittier ball is having an impact.

 

Depending on playing time, I think we see ~3 WAR from Biggio at the end of the season.

 

xSTATS will be a bit f***y until half way through the year when they are readjusted for the new offensive environment. I have heard.

[Stangstag]

Biggio haters:

 

[Spanky99]

His xBA/xSLG in 2020 was .214/.343. He had garbage exit velocity and one of the worst Hard Hit % in baseball that year.

 

lol... nice hyperbole.