General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Solaxys]

[Spanky99]

 

September and October sound good.

[Omar]

Bo won MLB player of the week, obviously.

 

That guy on the Angels had a pretty good week too.

[Stangstag]

 

Dammm. Add to that Berrios has mostly been crap and the 5th rotation spot has been a dumpster fire all year, its amazing the jays have their current record

[BigCecil]

Big Day today!

 

Its been a hell of a nice run - but George and Vlad need to start driving in some runs to sustain it. So many of the ABs with RISP have been weak.

 

Bo won't keep up this blistering pace forever, and others have to step up to backfill when he cools down a bit.

[Solaxys]

 

Looks like we're starting with our bullpen game first

[Laika]

so bullpen game?

[G-Snarls]

All 3 AL wild card teams have 61 losses and a run differential between +62 and +68

 

So tight in the standings and potential tiebreakers

[Stangstag]

so bullpen game?

 

1 of them was gonna have to be. I guess they’re going with the first game

[Solaxys]

Last doubleheader, they took Gausman.

This doubleheader, they are taking Manoah.

 

f*** the Rays.

[Daniel Labude]

[Daniel Labude]

I'll assume if Manoah can't go game 2, Stripling will go 3-5 innings

[Brownie19]

Little doubt the big guy will be out there for Game 2. He's a warrior. Just hope he can battle through it.

[max silver]

I'll assume if Manoah can't go game 2, Stripling will go 3-5 innings

 

Only other alternative is a bullpen game followed by a Mitch White start. I'll gladly take your option instead.

[Daniel Labude]

Only other alternative is a bullpen game followed by a Mitch White start. I'll gladly take your option instead.

 

Id thought they would move White up to Game 1

[Brownie19]

Id thought they would move White up to Game 1

 

They probably are as the bulk guy after Julian

[G-Snarls]

I'd feel perfectly happy if we manage a split today with all this going on

[Solaxys]

Edited September 13, 2022 by Solaxys

[Brownie19]

Not trailing, were tied.

 

sorry - I see the minor nuance now. It's still really stupid and you should feel shame for posting such nonsense.

[Solaxys]

sorry - I see the minor nuance now. It's still really stupid and you should feel shame for posting such nonsense.

 

Why? Its a very specific stat but doesn't oversell how unclutch he has been.

Like he did not hit a single solo HR (at the minimum, not counting any RISP situations) in any game where the Jays were trailing with at least one out to his name (6th and on) over the full season.

 

When was the last time you saw Vlad at plate, in a game-defining instance, and felt like damage was about to be done? Seemingly, that was last year.

These days its a blessing in disguise if he doesn't GIDP with RISP

Edited September 13, 2022 by Solaxys

[Omar]

This is damning. The anti-clutch gene in full force this season.

 

[Jimcanuck]

Vladdy clutch in 2021, unclutch in 2022. Did he get a brain transplant?

[Floortom]

This is damning. The anti-clutch gene in full force this season.

 

Maybe it's confirmation bias but I cant think of a clutch hit by Vladdy all season. I have no problem remembering clutch hits from Bo, Springer, Chapman, Teo, Lourdes, etc.

[Solaxys]

Maybe it's confirmation bias but I cant think of a clutch hit by Vladdy all season. I have no problem remembering clutch hits from Bo, Springer, Chapman, Teo, Lourdes, etc.

 

He had the 3 HR Cole game, he had the walkoff single against Bautista/Os (the Sox one was a groundball that found a hole), and the ChiSox game where he took the lead for us in the 10th/11th with a ringing single. Those are the big ones (I recall) where he had a lot of impact (through the bat) for winning the game.

[Floortom]

He had the 3 HR Cole game, he had the walkoff single against Bautista/Os (the Sox one was a groundball that found a hole), and the ChiSox game where he tied the game in the 10th/11th with a ringing single. Those are the big ones (I recall) where he had a lot of impact (through the bat) for winning the game.

 

The 3 HR game was cool but not really "clutch" in my opinion. The other two that you mentioned sure - as I said perhaps some confirmation bias.

[Stangstag]

Maybe it's confirmation bias but I cant think of a clutch hit by Vladdy all season. I have no problem remembering clutch hits from Bo, Springer, Chapman, Teo, Lourdes, etc.

 

The only ones I remember are:

 

- that Yankees game he hit 3 homers

- walk off single vs the Os in extras

- that double he hit in extras and Teo went on to walk it off

 

That’s all his clutch hitting this year

[John_Havok]

The only ones I remember are:

 

- that Yankees game he hit 3 homers

- walk off single vs the Os in extras

- that double he hit in extras and Teo went on to walk it off

 

That’s all his clutch hitting this year

 

Vlad has 2 walk offs this year, against the O's and Red Sox. but yeah, overall it'ss like he forgets his approach completely when there's guys on base and just tries to guess along with the pitcher and guesses wrong a ton. Same with Gurriel before his injury.

[jerb]

 

Ethan Diamandas

@EthanDiamandas

 

Since August 1, no qualified batter has hit more ground balls with RISP than Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (78.1%).

 

A trend -- or mechanical flaw, perhaps -- that's been tough for Vlad to break this season. #BlueJays

[Brownie19]

Vladdy clutch in 2021, unclutch in 2022. Did he get a brain transplant?

 

Exactly. Clutch isn't a thing. This BS about how many times he's had a hit to tie or take the lead in the 6th inning or later is some made up BS stat. I'm fairly sure if you could track this stat, you'd find these numbers vary widely from year to year for all the best hitters in baseball. It's not a skill that you can see a player is working on and improving year after year.

[Omar]

The only ones I remember are:

 

- that Yankees game he hit 3 homers

- walk off single vs the Os in extras

- that double he hit in extras and Teo went on to walk it off

 

That’s all his clutch hitting this year

 

None while trailing though, all when tied or ahead.