General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Spanky99]

I think they need to remove that from the game. The fielder shouldn't be able to do this. In an important game, what stops the 3rd baseman from taking it 1 step further and putting both knees and his upper body in front of 3rd? Or a catcher sitting on the plate like that guy did this year in the minors? Sure the runner can spike the f*** out of him, but if it's in Game 7 of the WS, then the 3rd baseman is likely to be willing to pay the price.

 

It's dumb - runner needs full access to the bag. Tag him properly.

 

Exactly, that's why they did it. I'm unsure if that's been kiboshed, I mean, I think it would be?

[Spanky99]

Is it actually against the rules?

 

My said point... it makes a huge difference.

[BlueJaysFever]

Goddamn I hope the Pearson of the 2020 WC/ 2021 September is available. That is a monster multi inning arm that significantly improves an already stabilized RP lineup.

[Spanky99]

Goddamn I hope the Pearson of the 2020 WC/ 2021 September is available. That is a monster multi inning arm that significantly improves an already stabilized RP lineup.

 

I hope too, very possible.

[BlueJaysFever]

I hope too, very possible.

I'm still confused whether he'd be available for post season mind you

[Laika]

I'm still confused whether he'd be available for post season mind you

 

He would be

[BlueJaysFever]

He would be

That's good news

[JaysAllMighty]

 

[JaysAllMighty]

Biggio not in the lineup again. What's with the hate of him by Schneider?

[Laika]

Biggio not in the lineup again. What's with the hate of him by Schneider?

 

jesus christ

[Spanky99]

Biggio not in the lineup again. What's with the hate of him by Schneider?

 

Absurd.

[Stangstag]

Biggio not in the lineup again. What's with the hate of him by Schneider?

 

Its f***ing lunacy that we’re running out JBJ and Tapia instead of Biggio.

 

Front office must have a hard stance of NO BIGGIO IN THE OF

[Spanky99]

No Biggio is silly.

[Stangstag]

No Biggio is silly.

 

Wait til we discover Charlie was fired because he wanted more Biggio in the OF while the front office told him not to do it and play Tapia/Zimmer instead.

[Spanky99]

Wait til we discover Charlie was fired because he wanted more Biggio in the OF while the front office told him not to do it and play Tapia/Zimmer instead.

 

K.....

[Spanky99]

[Spanky99]

Read it dude's...

 

[keggy]

Biggio not in the lineup again. What's with the hate of him by Schneider?

 

I'm pretty sure their starter is a right handed shitballer, so you can't even blame this on the "Biggio can't get to the high fastball" narrative.

[Krylian]

Read it dude's...

 

 

f*** the Rangers

[JFD]

Biggio not in the lineup again. What's with the hate of him by Schneider?

 

It's more about Schneider getting his best contact hitter in the lineup. Biggio can't compete with that

[Jimcanuck]

Got to wonder about the Jays use of Biggio this season, and if Biggio taking half of the Tapia ABs would have meant an additional win or two.

[JaysAllMighty]

Got to wonder about the Jays use of Biggio this season, and if Biggio taking half of the Tapia ABs would have meant an additional win or two.

 

I would like to know who's responsible for Biggio's lack of playing time, FO or Schneider.

[glory]

If the Jays don't want to use Biggio in the OF, and also don't want to do a Biggio/Espinal platoon at 2B when all the numbers suggest it's the logical way to go, then I'm not really sure what's going on with him and the team. If the team has soured on him, then trade him in the winter. That way when they tender Tapia a contract and give him 450 PA (and $5m) in 2023, it won't be at the expense of a much better player already on the roster. Biggio is 2 wins better than Tapia this season with 100 fewer plate appearances. I'm not sure how a competent front office doesn't see that and adjust playing time to reflect that.

[John_Havok]

I would like to know who's responsible for Biggio's lack of playing time, FO or Schneider.

 

Just a quick check of Biggio the last two seasons... really shows how an uptick in power, improved baserunning and even average defense can make a guy much more valuable.

 

[Omar]

Just a quick check of Biggio the last two seasons... really shows how an uptick in power, improved baserunning and even average defense can make a guy much more valuable.

 

 

Once Robo umps come in he will hit another plateau. Best thing that could ever happen to him.

[BigCecil]

Just a quick check of Biggio the last two seasons... really shows how an uptick in power, improved baserunning and even average defense can make a guy much more valuable.

 

 

Tapia approaching 400 PAs still in negative WAR territory is really grinding my gears. EVEN SPRINT SPEED BIGGIO > TAPIA.

 

Its somewhat intangible (BsR I don't fully understand)and when Tabby says it I cringe, but Biggio appears to be an excellent baserunner. Speed, reads, slides and general baseball IQ on the base paths. Tapia runs like a drunk baby giraffe on the bases.

 

While I'm at it on the morning bitches in the midst of an 8-2 run, STOP STOP with the sac bunts. So painful to watch us blowing strikes and outs flailing away.

[connorp]

Just a quick check of Biggio the last two seasons... really shows how an uptick in power, improved baserunning and even average defense can make a guy much more valuable.

 

 

Little deeper than a quick check and you’d see really he’s the same hitter as last year. He’s just faced lefties at a lesser rate. If you give him the next 25 ABs against lefties to balance out the ratios, his numbers are prob worse this year.

 

The responsible thing to do with defense is use a bigger sample size instead of just saying he’s better at fielding using the small sample size of this season.

 

He’s the same as last year. Just used a little better

[John_Havok]

Little deeper than a quick check and you’d see really he’s the same hitter as last year. He’s just faced lefties at a lesser rate. If you give him the next 25 ABs against lefties to balance out the ratios, his numbers are prob worse this year.

 

The responsible thing to do with defense is use a bigger sample size instead of just saying he’s better at fielding using the small sample size of this season.

 

He’s the same as last year. Just used a little better

 

Facing a few fewer lefties doesnt have a thing do with his value increases in defense or better baserunning value. Whether its skill related or opportunity related is another conversation. It's also doubtful that 25 PAs against lefties would equate to him losing a tremendous amount of offense.

 

Either way, compare his 2022 to 2020 then when in 2020 his overall batting was definitely better, but overall fWAR was slightly lower... due to being less effective on D.

 

And the point of the post was not to compare sample sizes, just to illustrate that baserunning and defense contributions from a guy like Biggio give him so much better of a floor than he already has, which is markedly better than f***heads like Tapia, who is still getting more playing time for some f***ed up reason.

[Jimcanuck]

Little deeper than a quick check and you’d see really he’s the same hitter as last year. He’s just faced lefties at a lesser rate. If you give him the next 25 ABs against lefties to balance out the ratios, his numbers are prob worse this year.

 

The responsible thing to do with defense is use a bigger sample size instead of just saying he’s better at fielding using the small sample size of this season.

 

He’s the same as last year. Just used a little better

 

His power is back to 2019/2020 levels. Last year he played hurt, which sapped the power. Biggio is quite clearly a 115 to 120 wrC+ bat that plays acceptable defense, and has a high baseball IQ. In other words, a massively more valuable player than f***ing Tilapia.

Edited September 10, 2022 by Jimcanuck

[Grant77]

Little deeper than a quick check and you’d see really he’s the same hitter as last year. He’s just faced lefties at a lesser rate. If you give him the next 25 ABs against lefties to balance out the ratios, his numbers are prob worse this year.

 

The responsible thing to do with defense is use a bigger sample size instead of just saying he’s better at fielding using the small sample size of this season.

 

He’s the same as last year. Just used a little better

 

Biggio not an 84 wRC+ hitter like last year. Even against lefties, he's at 98 this year and at 106 for his career. The 2021 season can be written off almost entirely due to injuries and a last minute defensive change.

 

We've got a pretty strong track record to show that Biggio is a 115-120 wRC+ hitter with average defense at 2B and above average baserunning. Over a full season, that's a 3-3.5 WAR player. There is still some time for his platoon splits to stabilize, but there's little to suggest that he would benefit from only facing righties. He's a quality starting 2B with some useful versatility.