Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 He’s a 4 FIP pitcher. It stands to reason he often mixes good games with bad ones. No I wasn’t the troll, but I think you’re taking the point way too literally: 1 good start, then two bad ones. Like do you think someone actually thinks that’s a concrete pattern? Lol. It’s just a way of saying he’s too inconsistent to be a front line pitcher. Again, there’s no sense continuing to argue about his WAR. It’s perfectly fine to see it that way. It’s perfectly fine to look at his 4.00 career FIP and judge him that way too. Neither side is wrong. Usually when two sides have a point, it makes for a hot debate It’s all opinion, but if he doesn’t put up a career year in 2021, I doubt he gets that contract. 3.40 FIP and 4.00 FIP pitcher are a little different. I imagine Jays thought he was taking that next step handing out the contract So just to be clear - do you also believe Manoah is a 3rd/4th starter type and not someone who scares anyone in a playoff game? If so, this team probably needs to start rebuilding eh?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 connor's trashing gives me confidence Berrios will be good this year
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 So just to be clear - do you also believe Manoah is a 3rd/4th starter type and not someone who scares anyone in a playoff game? If so, this team probably needs to start rebuilding eh? Dig it up. I was calling him the ace from Day 1 He’s a FIP beater. If you’re trying to correlate Berrios to something, his FIP and ERA mirror each other pretty well
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Gausman I was wait-and-see with. Another guy I constantly rostered in fantasy leagues for years and finally soured on him…I think it was at least fair to wonder if he could replicate his success in the AL East but he proved legit
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 connor's trashing gives me confidence Berrios will be good this year Says the guy who kicked off the season trading me one of the best SP in baseball for Cody Bellinger
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Speaking of SP, how is Tiedemann not ranked by Fangraphs? Didn’t they update their list during the year?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Judge to Giants would be awesome But he prob stays
Ehjays Verified Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Top of lineup Jose Altuve Jose Abreu Yordan Alvarez Alex Bregman
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted November 30, 2022 Posted November 30, 2022 Assuming all stay healthy, yes. That list also looks like a frequent flier list of the IL
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Yankees have apparently offered Judge 8/300M
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Yankees have apparently offered Judge 8/300M Pretty good offer. I don’t know how much more he can realistically expect to get. Does anyone go add two years and go 10/375? I kinda doubt it.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Pretty good offer. I don’t know how much more he can realistically expect to get. Does anyone go add two years and go 10/375? I kinda doubt it. Depending on his mindset, something like 10/320 might be enough to sway him. Similar to the Harper contract. Less AAV but more overall
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Pretty good offer. I don’t know how much more he can realistically expect to get. Does anyone go add two years and go 10/375? I kinda doubt it. There’s always some jerk off
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 There’s always some jerk off One thing Judge does perceivably have going for him is that he’s one of, if not the most, marketable person in baseball. Definitely would be a nugget for a team negotiating tv contract or something
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 It's probably about legacy now. I'll bet SF offers similar Taxes are high in both states No one else is probably offering this contract except maybe Mets and that doesn't seem like where he would go Does be want to be a top 10-20 all time Yankee Or does he want to be a legend closer to home
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 It's probably about legacy now. I'll bet SF offers similar Taxes are high in both states No one else is probably offering this contract except maybe Mets and that doesn't seem like where he would go Does be want to be a top 10-20 all time Yankee Or does he want to be a legend closer to home If I had the chance, i’d pick hometown hero no question. Really depends how important the “Yankees legacy” is to him
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 It's probably about legacy now. I'll bet SF offers similar Taxes are high in both states No one else is probably offering this contract except maybe Mets and that doesn't seem like where he would go Does be want to be a top 10-20 all time Yankee Or does he want to be a legend closer to home He may get one of those pillow “join the front office” after the contract type deals
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Though I think Pujols had something like that and it didn’t work out lol. But if I remember right, LAA parlayed the signing into a monster tv deal
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Sunday, Dec. 4: HOF Contemporary Era ballot results released (Albert Belle, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Dale Murphy, Rafael Palmeiro, Curt Schilling)
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Assuming all stay healthy, yes. That list also looks like a frequent flier list of the IL Why?
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Pretty good offer. I don’t know how much more he can realistically expect to get. Does anyone go add two years and go 10/375? I kinda doubt it. SF might whip there dick out, but I see him staying in NY at that dough.
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Yankees have apparently offered Judge 8/300M That is gonna be such a bad deal.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 SF might whip there dick out, but I see him staying in NY at that dough. I don't understand the appeal of SF myself. They aren't close to winning are they? ML roster isn't amazing, nor is the farm system.
wamco Verified Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Sunday, Dec. 4: HOF Contemporary Era ballot results released (Albert Belle, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Dale Murphy, Rafael Palmeiro, Curt Schilling) Hoping for McGriff and schilling
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 I don't understand the appeal of SF myself. They aren't close to winning are they? ML roster isn't amazing, nor is the farm system. Its near his family, nice weather, much nicer city than NY
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Hoping for McGriff and schilling Really hoping McGriff gets in. Schilling, meh.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 I don't understand the appeal of SF myself. They aren't close to winning are they? ML roster isn't amazing, nor is the farm system. Terrible place to hit, bad team, tough division. Seems unlikely he’s really that interested
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Terrible place to hit, bad team, tough division. Seems unlikely he’s really that interested Agreed. I understand it's a nice city and the weather is nice if you like it between 12 and 18 all year round. It's not as nice as the weather in LA or SD. Family matters though, so maybe that's a big factor for him. I still think he ends up back in NY. As much as I hate the Yankees, there's something about becoming the next yankee legend that has to be pulling at him.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted December 1, 2022 Posted December 1, 2022 Agreed. I understand it's a nice city and the weather is nice if you like it between 12 and 18 all year round. It's not as nice as the weather in LA or SD. Family matters though, so maybe that's a big factor for him. I still think he ends up back in NY. I do too. The opportunity to be a Yankee for life will be too much for him to turn down I think
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